M2TW Kingdoms is a Joke!

[Vindahl]

Right now, I really dont look forward to the Kingdoms add-on.
Why, you might ask?
Well, I dont feel like spending time and money on such a cheap add-on-project by the Total War team. Currently, as far as I have understand, the add on brings some new factions in the game, with some new units. The campaign is now split into 4 campaigns. Meaning that I will only be able to play a campaign with 4 or 5 factions in, with a most of the world unplayable?
This is such a discount solution, trying to make more money on something already great.
There are tons of mods which does the same thing! Perhaps even better!
So when I sit and watch the trailers for Kingdoms, I shake my head and cry "WHY?", is this a very bad joke?
Sure the trailers look nice and pretty and everything, with pics from some combat, but can a little bit glitter and fancy clips brainwash us so much that we are willing to invest in this no-good add-on!?
The game looks JUST like the orinigal M2TW! When one person buys this new add-on, more have to follow, the mods will be designed for Kingdoms and everybody who just enjoy M2TW will also have to buy Kingdoms just to keep up with mods and everything.
I dont understand these small add-ons, it feels so frustrating knowing that in the time they use on these things, they could have gone much more farer in creating a whole new game, being Napoleonic TW, STW 2 or RTW 2, it doesnt matter!
Perhaps I sound paranoid, and yea, why cant I just not buy the add-on if I am so negative about it you ask!

- Well, I guess I just have to be crazy, cause I cant just sit and dont buy the add-on, then I would have to sit and hear other people talking about Kingdoms, not knowing a thing what it was about. I'll gladly support the TW team, but I must say that I have lost a huge amount of respect for them...

[Magic Man]

- Well, I guess I just have to be crazy,

You hit the nail on the head there!

But seriously, its a pretty good add on if you just look at the add on, and not the stuff that wont be changed in the original. If you dont like the look of it, dont buy it.

[Icefrisco]

Compared to BI and Alexander it looks really good. Also, the reviewers like it.

[TWoxy]

Compared to BI and Alexander it looks really good. Also, the reviewers like it.

I thought PCGamer UK rated the original M2TW far too highly; it's like they felt an obligation to live up to the hype they had produced themselves. They rated Kingdoms 90% as well. I can't really make a judgement on Kingdoms without buying it though.

[chris watton]

I thought PCGamer UK rated the original M2TW far too highly; it's like they felt an obligation to live up to the hype they had produced themselves. They rated Kingdoms 90% as well. I can't really make a judgement on Kingdoms without buying it though.

Have to agree with you there - I was so looking forward to wasting many hours playing M2, but it turned out to be a game that was nowhere near the ratings given in the mags, PC Gamer especially (IMOHO), and lost interest very quickly before going back to RTW.
I note with interest that the review in PC Zone states that the cavalry stopping just before they head into the enemy is still prevalent in TW Kingdoms, too, which I feel is a major let down, as the cavalry make or break a lot of battles.

I shall certainly buy the new add on, but with much humbler expectations this time, as mag reviews and scores are not to be trusted.

[Kizzang]

Compared to BI and Alexander it looks really good. Also, the reviewers like it.

yess sirr. I cant wait for kingdoms!!

[Freddie]

Compared to BI and Alexander it looks really good. Also, the reviewers like it.

Good point, until you have actually played the game I can’t see how you can knock it. You might have some reservations about it but to completed dismiss a game before you have tried (especially one that comes from one of the most consistently successful franchises of all time) it seems a bit ludicrous.

[repman]

If you put the zoomed minimaps of kingdoms into one main campaign map, you get a bigmap with all the turn times problems. So CA decided to split.
The Battle balancing of kingdoms you can have already if you play Lusted's mod.

Or play DLV, is a beta of Kingdoms....lol

repman

[spartan117]

I agree smaller campaigns are no where near the same as the Grand campaign. A cut down map with less factions is okay and all but I like the Grand Campaign. I wouldnt buy the game just for the smaller campaigns. I will buy the expansion because the game comes with artwork for new factions and new units. Which I will then add to where ever I want to. This is a great addition not not to mention many mods are going to update for the expansion and continue from there. If that is sill not enough well at least there are additions to forts.

[Keravnos]

Well, if M2TW Kingdoms is a Joke, hell, I am laughing!

[WImPyTjeH]

Compared to BI and Alexander it looks really good. Also, the reviewers like it.

Indeed. Kingdoms looks better then ALX or BI (or both). At least Kingdoms seems to have accurate maps (which Alx. didn't have IMO)

W

[ArnyBoy]

You still get the grand campaign + the other 4 campaigns

[Cortoisis]

Um...
What are you trying to say? CA is FORCING you to buy Kingdoms?

[WImPyTjeH]

Um...
What are you trying to say? CA is FORCING you to buy Kingdoms?

No, the mods are

I especially like this line:

Apparently from what they have said in interviews kingdoms is ment to be the most modable Totalwar project to date(notice word apparently)
Correct!

Promises! Promises!

W

[Francebunkerer]

Right now, I really dont look forward to the Kingdoms add-on.
Why, you might ask?
Well, I dont feel like spending time and money on such a cheap add-on-project by the Total War team. Currently, as far as I have understand, the add on brings some new factions in the game, with some new units. The campaign is now split into 4 campaigns. Meaning that I will only be able to play a campaign with 4 or 5 factions in, with a most of the world unplayable?
This is such a discount solution, trying to make more money on something already great.
There are tons of mods which does the same thing! Perhaps even better!
So when I sit and watch the trailers for Kingdoms, I shake my head and cry "WHY?", is this a very bad joke?
Sure the trailers look nice and pretty and everything, with pics from some combat, but can a little bit glitter and fancy clips brainwash us so much that we are willing to invest in this no-good add-on!?
The game looks JUST like the orinigal M2TW! When one person buys this new add-on, more have to follow, the mods will be designed for Kingdoms and everybody who just enjoy M2TW will also have to buy Kingdoms just to keep up with mods and everything.
I dont understand these small add-ons, it feels so frustrating knowing that in the time they use on these things, they could have gone much more farer in creating a whole new game, being Napoleonic TW, STW 2 or RTW 2, it doesnt matter!
Perhaps I sound paranoid, and yea, why cant I just not buy the add-on if I am so negative about it you ask!

- Well, I guess I just have to be crazy, cause I cant just sit and dont buy the add-on, then I would have to sit and hear other people talking about Kingdoms, not knowing a thing what it was about. I'll gladly support the TW team, but I must say that I have lost a huge amount of respect for them...

I'm glad you share CA's type of humour.
People with a good sense of humour are so rare these days, your post is such an enrichment to the forum.
Cracks me up.




If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's really that simple.

[sumaznguy]

They could have easily made the new campaigns epic.

Have more settlements in the area(like make the campaign map bigger by zooming in, and more factions. (even lesser tribes or something would do, they would proabbly have like one settlement but that would offer a more challenging experience perhaps?)

[Lusted]

Have more settlements in the area(like make the campaign map bigger by zooming in, and more factions. (even lesser tribes or something would do, they would proabbly have like one settlement but that would offer a more challenging experience perhaps?)

Well the Kingdoms campaign maps ARE zoomed in areas of the campaign map with lots of settlements, they all have over 50 settlements on them, and a variety of factions. They're not small, they are all quite long in fact.

[Aeneas Veneratio]

A joke is entertaining. Entertaining is what I am looking for in a game. Which means I will ofcourse get a good joke
Seriously, people on these forums want more historic accuracy and that is far easier to get in a "zoomed" in version of the map. Would it be historical accurate if the Crusader States come to America and roll over the Apachean tribes and take on the Spanish colonists? I can see it for me. Portugal taking on the Lithuanians and establishes the Kalmar Union after taking control of the Hanseatic League.

[sumaznguy]

Well the Kingdoms campaign maps ARE zoomed in areas of the campaign map with lots of settlements, they all have over 50 settlements on them, and a variety of factions. They're not small, they are all quite long in fact.

Now that I rewatched the videos (i looked at the minimap this time) and I did see a lot of settlements, so thats awesome.

[ashbery76]

It is disappointing CA didn't add anything to the main campaign.