Romano-British- WTF

**Lucius Vorenus** · August 16, 2007, 04:28 PM

I'm playing a BI campaign as the Celts, and I just took Londinium to eliminate the Roman presence and bring about the Romano-British. I was relieved when I saw they were one stack. Until I attacked with mine and found out that even though they had 50 more guys and a far inferior general, they had 2:1 odds against me. So I look and find that they are incredibly upgraded. I mean WTF? How can I deal with that? So I tried abandoning Londinium to them and sitting on the river to the west while they took the city so I could stop them from taking the rest of the isle. Then they sack the city and come up to attack. So I have two questions. I didn't see any horde logos or anything so I don't know, do they lose half their army when they settle? God I hope so, lol. Anyway, they slaughtered my army at the river battle, I couldn't stop them. Their peasants, since they were so upgraded, could beat my gallowglasses. My berserker unit was helpless and my spears were slaughtered. What should I do? I set my spears in schiltrom in front of the river, and lined up my gallowglasses behind with the berserkers and chariots behind them. they charged the spears and the spears routed quick, so I charged my gallowglasses in and the berserkers. I did make a mistake of not setting the berserkers to berserk, and my cavalry was absent because some saxons showed up on the coast and I sent them. My army was 5 pictish spears, 7 gallowglasses, 1 merc gallowglass, one berserker, and one chariot. My cavalry was 2 general, including Drest with 93 bodyguards, a mercenary Graal Knight, and Celtic noble cavalry, or whatever. It's hard to make big armies too, since I wasn't making any money until I took Londinium, and then bam, they show up. So any suggestions of what to do?

**Dr. Croccer** · August 17, 2007, 05:58 AM

Use H o' C. I always easily won from them. Most of their troops consist of weak units like CL and stuff. Just use Beserkers and chariots to wipe them out. Against Graal Knights and bodyguards use your own cavalry and/or masses of infantry and beserkers.

**Roy Batty** · August 17, 2007, 05:24 PM

Your problem is your use of the Spearmen. They don't make a good infantry line. Use your Gallowglasses instead (don't forget their warcry!).

The best thing to do is to back off and train more Gallowglasses, berserkers and a Druid unit or two as well as slingers (they get bonuses against armored units).

If you can't do that, have your Gallowglasses hold the line (warcry, remember?) while you flank with berserkers and chariots. Your spearmen units are pretty much worthless unless they are used to flank, stand off against a peasant unit, or to attack a cavalry unit already engaged. Also, keep your captain/general unit close to your main line of Gallowglasses to help stiffen their backbone. Celts have notoriously bad morale without Druids or generals nearby.

It would help if we knew the Romano-Brittish unit composition as well. Okay they're upgraded, but what units are actually there?

**Dr. Croccer** · August 18, 2007, 09:12 AM

Coastal Levies = LEVY SPEARMEN
British Comitanses
Warlord
Chariot(I think)
Sarmatian auxilia
Graal Knights = Cataphract like cavalry

**Severous** · August 18, 2007, 05:20 PM

Hi Lucius Vorenus

Celts. One of my favourite BI campaigns.

Romano-British are the first full stack battle you have as the Celts if you expand quickly.

I choose to confront them in a sally battle at London. On the turn they besieged my London I sally. Fought a night battle just outside the walls. It was a tough one..vh/vh settings.

Do you have a save at the point of the fight? It would make a good battle to download and try out.

**Captain Spanky** · September 10, 2007, 05:07 PM

When I fought the Romano-British as the Celts, I used an army mainly comprised of Levy Spearmen, a few Gallowglasses, one or two Druids and some Javelin Throwers, backed up by light cavalry and a general. Needless to say, I was slaughtered.

After that I reloaded the save file, and broke the army up, while training a more advanced force with heavy infantry, cavalry and berserkers else where. I took the broken up forces and hid them in lots of different ambush points. When the enemy got close enough, I sprang out, killing as many as I could, (mainly aiming for heavy cavalry), before losing my men. By the time they reached London, they were much reduced and I had no trouble finishing them off.

Hope this helps you deal with them.

**Drag529** · October 03, 2007, 10:33 AM

just make a stand in the city with your men,
even if you dont beat them you weaken them greatly
than you hit them with an ivasion

**Dr. Croccer** · October 03, 2007, 02:53 PM

I fought against them on the Theems with my Saxons, so needless to say it was fairly easy.

**coffebean** · December 21, 2007, 02:42 AM

god yes i was playing as the Saxons having pretty good time
i was full prepared for the Romano British people thinking of these huge multiple stacks of hard roman legions ... then i saw the one stack of men thinking hahaha the Romano British fools!

the people that took place to wipe out the Romano British wasnt my proudest moment.
then the damn Celts invaded kicking me of the British isles
so im gonna try and take my chances and take france and let the celts and R.B fight over that small island.