Wheel of Time Total War

[Crownofswords]

I spent a lot of time on this so please just take a peek.

This mod cannot go unmade it is just too perfect of a setting for a MTW2 mod.
Many of the factions are much like factions from medieval Europe, a lot of units wouldn't even have to be changed that much. Unit lists are already done from the failed WOT mod for RTW... too few modelers I have no modeling skill myself but I can draw any artwork needed and can provide any information about the books.

IF YOU HAVENT READ THE BOOKS GO PICK UP THE FIRST BOOK : Eye of the World I promise you will like the book and be drawn in.


For those of you who don't know anything about the books here is a description:

Since the day of creation the Dark One was sealed in his prison in the mountain of Dhoom. Some three thousand years ago in the Age of Legends men and women who could channel the one power swore a dark oath to the Shadow and bore a hole into Shai'tan's prison. These men and women were labeled as the thirteen Forsaken, for they had forsaken their oaths to the light. The war that followed gave creation of many dark creatures to serve in the armies of the Dark One: Trollocs human-like shapes half again as tall as any man but distorted by horns and various other animal parts, Myrddraal human-like creatures with pasty like skin and without eyes it is a common saying in the Borderlands that, "the look of the Eyeless is fear". These creatures were lead south out of the Great Blight by men and women who could channel known as Dreadlords. Out of desperation The Dragon, Lews Therin Telamon led his hundred companions north to Shayol Goul, where they sealed the Dark One's prison and the Forsaken within. As a last stroke of revenge the Dark One reached out and tainted Saidin, the male half of the true source. Dooming any man who channeled to go insane. Even in great victory one by one every man who could channel went insane and broke the world, changing the face of earth itself. It has been three thousand years since the world was broken, now only women channel and any man who begins channeling is hunted down and killed out of fear. Yet the seals on the Dark One's prison begin to weaken, threatening to unleash Shai'tan on the world once more. Humankind's only hope is that The Dragon will be reborn to face the Dark One once more to raise the banner of the light and lead humanity against the Shadow in the Last Battle, fulfill prophecy and surely break the world once more..

Heres a image of the map


Here is a list of factions:
Andor: ruled by Queens with close connections to Tar Valon

Tear: Guardians of the Stone the greatest fortress in the world. Hated enemies of Illian

Cairhein: Guardians of the Dragonwall, bitter players of Daes'Daemar or "the game of houses"

Tar Valon: Home of Aes Sedai the women who can channel

Illian: One of the great trading ports, where the Great Hunt of the Horn has always been called. They hold a bitter hatred of Tear.

Altara: Another land of great trading and sailors. Weak centralized government but a hardy people.

Amadicia: It may be ruled by a king but the true power is behind the Children of the Light, men sworn to fight the shadow an root out Darkfiends.

Ghealdan: A small but very strong neighbor of Amadicia

Tarabon: Capital Tanchico bitter rivals of Arad Doman. Known for the viels they wear.

Murandy: Much like Altara in the power of its king, Murandians rarely unite and only to face foreigners.

Saldea: A borderland nation committed to the never ending war against the blight, famous for their light cavalry.

Kandor: A borderland nation, famous for their archers.

Arafel: A borderland nation, famous for their swordsmen.

Shienar: Defenders of Tarwin's gap where they have many a time turned back the Trolloc hordes. Home of the best heavy cavalry in the world.

The Aiel: Bound to the waste for their sin of failing the Aes Sedai. A very hardy people, can easily run from sun up to sun down and fight a battle at the end. They disdain all armor and viel their faces before they kill. Will never touch a sword, they fight with short spears, a buckler, a small hornbow and a heavy bladed knife. Though they are known to be just as deadly with their hands and feet. Have never been united they fight continously among themselves. Twenty years before the begining of the game, three of the twelve clans crossed the Dragonwall burning and ravaging the land taking a united force from all nations to throw them back on the Slopes of Dragonmount near Tar Valon. Where Lews Therin Telamon killed himself and where it is prophecized he would be reborn.

The Blight: Armies of Trollocs led by Myrddraal who serve the Dark One. Pure evil.

Here are some drawings done by others:
This is out of the New Spring Comic a huge battle between Aiel and Wetlanders

Aiel battling the Band of the Red Hand


A Sheniarian Uno


Trollocs


One power killing trollocs


Heres a drawing of a Myrddraal

[toopers]

i cant help you!! but it looks f**ing amazing !! hope this will be released!!

[Ieuano]

sounds great, i can do traits but thats bout it

[GrnEyedDvl]

I also loved the books, Jordan is by far one of my fav authors.

I hope you can get somewhere with this as I wanted to see the RTW version of it. A few tips/suggestions.

Set the time back a bit from the books, say the Whitecloak wars or 100 years war, maybe even the Aiel wars. Make the Whitecloaks a faction.

Make the Aes Sedai ancillaries, or maybe use papal_states and make them something like the pope as I seriously doubt you can get a family tree to work right with them.

Andor will have to be kings, I dont think queens can be done.

Include the Aiel Waste and make them a faction.

Include the Sea Folk and Seanchan and maybe use the World is Round event to get to Seanchan lands, or for the Correnne.

I have lots of other ideas and might even donate a small bit of time to help you out but I am going full bore on another mod at the moment.

[Crownofswords]

Ive been doing a lot of drawing recently of WOT ill post some of my pictures later this week, but i'm really pushing for this mod. I was thinking we could have two campaigns one with the Aiel war which would exclude the blight and every nation has its soveriegnty so it would be a fun campaign. And a campaign to follow Rand and I believe that campaign should start with Rand leaving the waste with his Aiel army and Tear already behind him. This campaign would be fun because the Seachan would just be arriving in force at Tarabon and it would start immediately with a massive battle between Couladin and Rand's forces. The only down side is that Mayene, Tear and Cairhien wouldnt have their own soveriegnty instead replaced by a Forces of the Light faction. But this faction would be fun because of many more units such as Band of the Red hand. Also with the Two Rivers added in also as a part of the Forces of the light, maybe even some scattered but weak armies out in Tarabon and Arad Doman representing Dragonsworn.

I dont know WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE THIS MOD!!!! I think the Aiel War campaign could be made semi easily because there would be no units that would take an extensive amount of modeling (no trollocs) many units in the game already come close to the armies of wheel of time some reskinning and changing around would all that would be neccesary.

But im going to create a post like this over at the Org and see if I can rally some more support.

[The Walrus]

I'm not a modeller but I toyed around with the idea of this. (I lost track due to real life and not having access to the RTW dev forum on the guild)

One problem i ran into is the map, not too many cities to put

[Crownofswords]

There are other maps I dont own a copy of the WOT encylopedia but maybe if I search around on the net I can find some better WOT maps with more cities, if not we may have to make them up or atleast we can put castles or maybe even lord's manors out in the countryside.

I put the aiel down as a faction, the whitecloaks are included in the Amadicia faction. The seachan will definately have to be a faction, can replace mongols with them, and just set a date when they arrive in Tarabon with a massive force . Or we can just make them a faction and give them the Seafolk territory. I dont think the seafolk should be a faction considering there is never any mention of them fighting land battles and the only sea battles they have fought are against the Seachan. But glad to have the ideas everyone.

[The Walrus]

There are other maps I dont own a copy of the WOT encylopedia but maybe if I search around on the net I can find some better WOT maps with more cities, if not we may have to make them up or atleast we can put castles or maybe even lord's manors out in the countryside.

I put the aiel down as a faction, the whitecloaks are included in the Amadicia faction. The seachan will definately have to be a faction, can replace mongols with them, and just set a date when they arrive in Tarabon with a massive force . Or we can just make them a faction and give them the Seafolk territory. I dont think the seafolk should be a faction considering there is never any mention of them fighting land battles and the only sea battles they have fought are against the Seachan. But glad to have the ideas everyone.

I was thinking of also having castles/towns to control areas like "TomanHead" and "Almoth Plain"

I think the Whitecloaks should be a seperate faction but maybe have them in a superfaction with Amadicia or Amadicia be their vassals.

Since we have 30 faction slots(M2TW limit IIRC), we might be able to get the Sea Folk so they are a little more organized then normal rebels. Give them bad land units(but make a script to spawn soldiers if people invade?)

Faction list(keeping a tally)

1.Andor: ruled by Queens with close connections to Tar Valon

2.Tear: Guardians of the Stone the greatest fortress in the world. Hated enemies of Illian

3.Cairhein: Guardians of the Dragonwall, bitter players of Daes'Daemar or "the game of houses"

4.Tar Valon: Home of Aes Sedai the women who can channel (Pope like faction? Strong ties with Andor and the borderland states

5.Illian: One of the great trading ports, where the Great Hunt of the Horn has always been called. They hold a bitter hatred of Tear.

6.Altara: Another land of great trading and sailors. Weak centralized government but a hardy people.(great geurilla troops. Sort of like Portugal?(ie javelins, fast, good stamina. Could someone find the chapter where they raid the Seanchan[i think it was them])

7.Amadicia: It may be ruled by a king but the true power is behind the Children of the Light, men sworn to fight the shadow an root out Darkfiends.

8.Ghealdan: A small but very strong neighbor of Amadicia

9.Tarabon: Capital Tanchico bitter rivals of Arad Doman. Known for the viels they wear.

10.Murandy: Much like Altara in the power of its king, Murandians rarely unite and only to face foreigners.

11.Saldea: A borderland nation committed to the never ending war against the blight, famous for their light cavalry.

12.Kandor: A borderland nation, famous for their archers.

13.Arafel: A borderland nation, famous for their swordsmen.

14.Shienar: Defenders of Tarwin's gap where they have many a time turned back the Trolloc hordes. Home of the best heavy cavalry in the world.

15.The Aiel: Bound to the waste for their sin of failing the Aes Sedai. A very hardy people, can easily run from sun up to sun down and fight a battle at the end. They disdain all armor and viel their faces before they kill. Will never touch a sword, they fight with short spears, a buckler, a small hornbow and a heavy bladed knife. Though they are known to be just as deadly with their hands and feet. Have never been united they fight continously among themselves. Twenty years before the begining of the game, three of the twelve clans crossed the Dragonwall burning and ravaging the land taking a united force from all nations to throw them back on the Slopes of Dragonmount near Tar Valon. Where Lews Therin Telamon killed himself and where it is prophecized he would be reborn.

16.The Blight: Armies of Trollocs led by Myrddraal who serve the Dark One. Pure evil.


POSSIBLE FACTIONS-

Sea Folk- list of ships;

"Atha'an Miere ships fall into four general classes. From smallest to largest they are the darter, soarer, skimmer, and raker"

CoS- I suggest you get the WoT encyclopedia, LOADS of info


EDIT: CoS, you have photoshop?, maybe you could do textures and 2d art?

We could retexture certain pikemen and stuff for now, get a working beta, that might pick up a modeller. I might be able to help with some coding. Whats your MSN?

[Crownofswords]

Yeah i have photoshop my msn is north_shoredude@hotmail.com

I dont really know anything about skinning but I can definately do any kind of concept work.

[GrnEyedDvl]

Heres a decent map for ya.
http://www.wotmud.org/directory/maps/wheeloftimemap.jpg

Had a thought just after I posted that, name some cities in the blight after the trolloc clans.

[Crownofswords]

Yeah im thinking that we could just make some towns/fortresses named after noble houses from nations.

But heres a quick concept I did of a defender of the stone and added color in photoshop

[GrnEyedDvl]

Toman Head already has Falme, but no reason you couldnt add another and split the territory. Running through that map I posted earlier I count 50 or so cities/regions. Then you add a few in the blight, a few in the Aiel Waste, a few in Shara, and a few for the Seanchan and you are up close to 70 or so.

Then if you go through the books for all the villages that people stop in for only a night or so I bet you can get another 100. Four Kings, Salidar, bunches of them. Those would be good starting places for the slave faction.

[Crownofswords]

Not many independant faction places, few but not many. Im rereading the series again right now so thats a good thought ill write down all the towns and where they are as I come by them.

[The Walrus]

Toman Head already has Falme, but no reason you couldnt add another and split the territory. Running through that map I posted earlier I count 50 or so cities/regions. Then you add a few in the blight, a few in the Aiel Waste, a few in Shara, and a few for the Seanchan and you are up close to 70 or so.

Then if you go through the books for all the villages that people stop in for only a night or so I bet you can get another 100. Four Kings, Salidar, bunches of them. Those would be good starting places for the slave faction.

Might work. I acquired a map from Ieuano but never got around to putting in the provinces(and i have no knowledge of the other map files unfortunately)


EDIT: Let me try to find a bigger version

[GrnEyedDvl]

The map I posted is actually too big, bigger than the 1021 limit for map_heights.

[The Walrus]

Ok found it

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/6...ionsen1wr9.png

you should probably start from scratch and erase the colors I started

[GrnEyedDvl]

I found these too, incoluding maps of the Seanchan lands.

[The Walrus]

I found these too, incoluding maps of the Seanchan lands.

Ah nice. You might want to hold on though, CoS and I are trying to salvage some material from the RTW WoT mod. We might be able to get the map


Here is a faction list from the old RTW WoT mod

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showp...5&postcount=18

Andreas: Edited Domani army-lists (18-03-2005)
Basic units

Peasants
Levy Pikemen
Pikemen
Armoured Pikemen
Peasant Archer
Archer
Crossbowmen
House Guards
House Armsmen (These are swordsmen, just with a different name to make them more interesting)
Royal Armsmen
Local Militia
Town Militia
County Militia

Mounted Militia
Light Horse
Mounted Armsmen (swords shield)
Mounted Nobles
Noble Retainers
Mounted Crossbows


Tarabon

King’s Life Guard (Mounted and Dismounted)
Panarch’s Legion (Pikemen)
Taraboner Lancers
Taraboner Infantry (Spearmen)

Andor

Queens Guards (Mounted and Dismounted)
White Lions(Mounted & Dismounted) Note only in Rand era
Two Rivers Longbows
Miner Militia (From the mines in the mountains of mist)
Billmen
Men of Caemlyn(Swordsmen Medium Armor)
Two River Peasants (pretty badass peasants armed with Spears)

Tear

Defenders of the Stone (Mounted and Dismounted)
Tairen Heavy Horse
Godan Cavalry
Maredo Cavalry
Tairen Horse Archers
Tairen Lancers

Amadicia

Guardians of the Gate(Mounted & Dismounted)
Children of the Light(Mounted & Dismounted)
Children of the Light Archers
Children of the Light Crossbowmen
Amadician Pikemen (Heavy Duty)
Zealots
Amadician Crossbowmen

Cairhien

Cairhien Vanguard(Mounted & Dismounted)
Guardians of the Dragonwall(Mounted & Dismounted)
Cairhienen Nobles
Billmen
Free Companies (Two handed swords)
Cairhienen Infantry (Pikemen)

Murandy

Royal Guards (Mounted and Dismounted)
Murandian Bandits (Archers)
Merchant Guards (Mounted and Dismounted)
Lugard Brigands (Spearmen)

Shienar

Shienaran Royal Lancers
Shienaran Mounted Bows
Borderland Militia
Fal Daran Cavalry
Two-Handed Sordsmen
Borderguards(Mounted & Dismounted)

Arafel

Arafellin Knights (Mounted and Dismounted)
Mounted Swordsmen
Arafellin Swordsmen (Two Swords)
Arafellin House Armsmen
Borderland Militia
Arafellin Light Horse
Borderguards(Mounted & Dismounted)

Kandor

Royal Lancers (Mounted and Dismounted)
Kandori Lancers
Kandori Heavy Infantry
Kandori Armsmen
Kandori Archers
Borderland Militia
Chariots?
Borderguards(Mounted & Dismounted)

Saldea

Saldean Royal Lancers
Saldean Light Cavalry
Saldean Light Swords
Saldean Light Javelins
Saldean Footarchers
House Bashere Swordsmen
Borderland Militia
Borderguards(Mounted & Dismounted)

Ghealdan

Defenders of the Wall (On foot)
Royal Guards(Mounted & Dismounted)
Billmen
Jehanna City Guard

Illian

Companions (Mounted and Dismounted)
Sailors
Councils Bodyguard (Maces)

Mayene

Winged Guards (Mounted and Dismounted)
Marines

Altara

Palace Guard (Mounted and Dismounted)
Altaran Light Horse
Bandits

Arad Doman

Royal Guards(Mounted & Dismounted)
Domani Heavy Swordsmen
Merchant Guards (Mounted and Dismounted)
Order of the Council (battle axe, mounted and foot)

The Shadow - Shayol Ghul

Myrddraal
Dha'vol Band
Dhai'mon Band
Ko'bal Band
Ahf'frait Band
Kno'mon Band
Dha'vol Fist
Dhai'mon Fist
Ko'bal Fist
Ahf'frait Fist
Kno'mon Fist

Creatures of the Blight
Darkhounds
Darkfriend Militia
Darkfriend Archers
Darkfriend Riders
Darksworn Champions
Dreadlords

The Shadow - Dha'vol Clan

Myrddraal
Dha'vol Band
Ahf'frait Band
Kno'mon Band
Dha'vol Fist
Ahf'frait Fist
Kno'mon Fist
Armoured Dha'vol

Creatures of the Blight
Darkhounds
Darkfriend Militia
Darkfriend Archers
Darkfriend Riders
Darksworn Champions
Dreadlords

The Shadow - Ko'bal Clan

Myrddraal
Ko'bal Band
Ahf'frait Band
Kno'mon Band
Ko'bal Fist
Ahf'frait Fist
Kno'mon Fist
Armoured Ko'bal

Creatures of the Blight
Darkhounds
Darkfriend Militia
Darkfriend Archers
Darkfriend Riders
Darksworn Champions
Dreadlords

The Shadow - Dhai'mon Clan

Myrddraal
Dhai'mon Band
Ahf'frait Band
Kno'mon Band
Dhai'mon Fist
Ahf'frait Fist
Kno'mon Fist
Armoured Dhai'mon

Creatures of the Blight
Darkhounds
Darkfriend Militia
Darkfriend Archers
Darkfriend Riders
Darksworn Champions
Dreadlords

Tar Valon

Aes Sedai
Tower Guards
Younglings(Mounted & Dismounted)
Tar Valon Heavy Cavalry
Tar Valon Halbierers
Tar Valon Swordsmen
Men of Tar Valon(Milita)

Seachan (Rand Era only)

Death Watch Guards(Mounted & Dismounted)
Death Watch Ogier Guards
Damane
Cavalry
Seachan Beast Riders
Seachan Cavalry
Infantry
Seachan Falxmen
Seachan Spearmen
Seachan Swordsmen
Seachan Archers

Aiel

Clan Chiefs Guard
Red Shields(Light Infantry)
Thunder Walkers(Heavy Infantry)
Far Dareis Mai(Light Aiel - like scouts)
Stone Dogs(Medium Infantry)
Water Seekers(Light Skirmishers)
True Bloods(Archers)
Brothers of the Eagle(Heavy Skirmishers)
Night Spears(Maybe like Night Raiders with a frighten enemy option?)
Black Eyes(Heavy Archers)
(No idea what to do with the two left...Maybe an elite aiel unit?)
Dawn Runners
Knife Hands

People of the Dragon (These include the Aiel and Tairens in the Rand era)

Asha'man (Mounted & Dismounted)
Wise Ones-(Rand era, never fought before dumai wells)
Legion of the Dragon (Heavy Crossbowmen with good swords fighting skills also)
Band of the Red Hand

[GrnEyedDvl]

Forgot the link lol
http://www.wotmud.org/directory/maps.php

[Crownofswords]

Yeah you would actuately be suprised at the amount of stuff we just dug up out of the old dev forums for the RTW mod. We have all the faction symbols, unit lists some unit stats not to mention all the old members will be getting messages. Hopefully we'll get our hands on the old map as well.