My Opinion

[carnivore]

First i want to say this mod really looks good and has the feel of real medieval game

But , and here comes a big one , i'ts unplayable imo
why ?

cous it is S L o w !
you cannot play a game in which the turn are so slow you can make yourself a drink in between
i gave it a chan se but it just don't work and the slow turn kills this mod for me

i dont know if it is the big map or the many faction but it has a flow problem
btw, my pc is powefull so that is not the issue

my wish is that this mod will be balanced with the right speed some day and maybe then i will be able to play it

thanx for your affort and time on making this mod

[StrikeQ]

How long do turns take you? They take me <30 seconds easily.

The time is from the bigmap, plus all the added scripts.

[carnivore]

Oh it is way moe than 30 sec , takes few minutes for a turn

[StrikeQ]

Can you post your system specs? (Have you tried setting the game to high priority CPU wise?)

I haven't really done an indepth look at all the scripts, but some things like the supply and garrison scripts probably add some time and some may choose to remove them.

[Leonnidas]

@ carnivore:

I haven't really done an indepth look at all the scripts, but some things like the supply and garrison scripts probably add some time and some may choose to remove them.

Here u have it

[carnivore]

Listen , for example if i play SS mod it runs great , also battles are ok in the highest res
the map is laggy , and it's reall bad cous this mod is great one
i think it need some rebalance to be fully playable
maybe a modder here who know a trick to make this mod run faster ?

[Wirapuru]

Listen , for example if i play SS mod it runs great , also battles are ok in the highest res
the map is laggy , and it's reall bad cous this mod is great one
i think it need some rebalance to be fully playable
maybe a modder here who know a trick to make this mod run faster ?

before 'that'..

...some things like the supply and garrison scripts probably add some time and some may choose to remove them.

@carnivore
read before "asking" like this, maybe you become more patient and then can find an answer and play a mod made for patient people. I know it's slow, in here it takes almost a minute too, but I find my ways to overcome that and it's worth for what it gives. Besides that you have 800+ turns with slow-paced not action-driven mechanics to play, even with <30secs turns wait for a game way different from SS..

(PS:Sorry being so 'direct', just can't see someone trying to help and the other being so rude. Same coin)

[kabouldingue]

when its IA turn's i do musculation rep or i read, for me it's not a pb. I prefer a good game may be slow than an arcade game like mtw2 vanilla.

[StrikeQ]

I haven't played SS, but I've heard it's a light mod which explains how it's faster. DLV has many aspects to it to prolong the game and add roleplay elements. It's all the stuff present that causes it to be longer. But myself and many others have no issues with load/turn times nor laggy battles.

[carnivore]

You missunderstod me
The only lag here is the campaign turns
it takes a real long time to switch turn
thats it
and its bad

[carnivore]

Wirapuru , why are you calling me rude ?
I just explained the problem again , i wasn't rude
second , please dont jump into concultion , i love a good slow paced game (like EB for rome ) but what's bothering me is the fact that the turn switch is slow , not the how the game play , if you read carfully , i noted that i like this mod , that's it
And if someone know a way of tweaking it so it will be a bit faster i will be happy to hear

thanx

[Cromagnon2]

The turns are not that slow for me. Maybe it takes two minutes, no big deal.
Have you checked the "follow AI movement" off?

[carnivore]

I am not a moder and i have no idea how to play it without the script

I think that the publisher of this mod should try and work something out and reduce the amount of time , for the sake of gameplay

thats all we ask

[Harry Lime]

I am not a moder and i have no idea how to play it without the script

I think that the publisher of this mod should try and work something out and reduce the amount of time , for the sake of gameplay

thats all we ask

Helpful Mode Activated:
1) Start DLV4
2) Click Single Player
3) Click Custom Campaign
4) Click Vanilla Script (the one that says fast turns
5) Click Next (location right bottom corner)
6) Choose Faction
7) Click Next (location right bottom corner)
8) Play

[Xtiaan72]

I used to have problems with that with earlier versions. But it moves along much quicker with 3.2.... It's not even a bother anymore

[Aszrayel]

Helpful Mode Activated:
1) Start DLV4
2) Click Single Player
3) Click Custom Campaign
4) Click Vanilla Script (the one that says fast turns
5) Click Next (location right bottom corner)
6) Choose Faction
7) Click Next (location right bottom corner)
8) Play

Thank you Abrocomos. A type of response like this is a lot more helpful and appreciated by those perusing the forums looking for help.

[Tokus*Maximus]

Hey Carnivore,

Sorry to hear DLV has you feeling it's slow, we try to put a lot in. I get frustrated sometimes too when it takes a while but I enjoy aspects the mod brings to M2TW (and plethora of growing DLV mini-mods).

Of course we'd love to redress the time turns and more (like reskinning battle faction troops) but DLV's core team is tiny. Busy businessmen with demanding jobs and family lives.

Sorry that what we have on offer isn't for you (and others). If you really find the slowness too much, I hope you find one of the many mods on offer to your gaming taste. I can't see DLV simplifying it's RPG elements just to make the turns faster.

How Repman steers this mod is fine by me. He's taken us this far and I've never had thought to doubt his vision.

Hope this finds you well,

Tokus*Maximus

[Gabriel A]

Helpful Mode Activated:
1) Start DLV4
2) Click Single Player
3) Click Custom Campaign
4) Click Vanilla Script (the one that says fast turns
5) Click Next (location right bottom corner)
6) Choose Faction
7) Click Next (location right bottom corner)
8) Play

+1

Also, when you consider how long it takes to plan out and do all your moves during a turn, the 30 or so seconds between turns isn't that big of a deal in my opinion. In SS you blow by turns so quickly, that it would be annoying to have the time in between turns be longer than the turns themselves.

If the thirty seconds or so is really killing,,, check a book out from the library and read in between turns? I dunno, thats what I do.

[Lumberjack]

I wasnt a modder 4 weeks ago, dont be so lazy, do some reading and look at the file.

If you actually took a moment to figure things out before coming to tell us your opinion you'd see that the solution you desire already exists within the game. Choose a different campaign script if your computer is too :wub: for your attention span.

[Archaon]

hmmm, again i see a thread where the modders (not mentioning who) are being arrogant and jumping the gun.
seriously guys you are driving away fans!
they only post here their problems so that you may realise there 'are' problems.
i am not one to expect a modder to do as i ask as i rarely do what someone asks of me unless i want to, so i understand a veiwpoint of yours that you make no profit ect (the usual excuses) but it makes no diffence to the gameplayability of your creation.

also i think your mod is great in theory, just needs some polishing is all