(Moved to vote) Opifex Amendment Bill

[Tom Paine]

In a last ditch attempt to get someone to actually read my posts, I'm proposing an alteration to the Opifex legislation. People are objecting to modders and debators being given the same award; well, the same applied to the pre-split citizenship, and thus the same solution will logically be applicable here. So I propose the following;

Opifex Praestans

To qualify as an Opifex Praestans, the nominee must have served the Total War Center or Total War Community with exceptional input to any of the boards or mods in any capacity other than that of a Staff Officer. A member of any Rank is eligible to receive an Opifex Praestans award, but must also meet the criteria to become a Citizen. His nomination must also be seconded by an elected member of the Consilium de Civitate.

Qualifying nominees shall have their nomination posted in the Prothalamos and will be moved to vote as per the procedure in Section 2 Article 3. Once moved to they shall be voted upon for a period of one week and require a two-third majority of non-abstaining votes to achieve the award. If the nominee was not already a Citizen, this Rank shall also be conferred upon them if they pass. A nominee who fails to pass his vote is not eligible to re-nominated until three months have passed.

If the Curia awards them the rank of Praestans in accordance with this legislation, the candidate may choose between one of three medals, Opifex for contributions to modding, Discepans for contributions to debate in any area of the site, or Praestans for miscellaneous contributions, to show on their profile, to reflect the nature of their contributions.

This choice of medal and renaming shall be retroactive.

Supporters: SirPaladin (post 16); jimkatalanos (post 17); Thanatos (post 54)

v1.1: 1358 GMT, 10th August 2007. Retroactivity added, rank descriptions in brief added.

[jimkatalanos]

I support.

[Halie Satanus]

Hmm....Yup I like it. Support.

[Tacticalwithdrawal]

support

[Noble Savage]

I support

[Trax]

I would like to propose different names for the ranks.
Praestans - Vir Illustris
Discepans - Orator

Then we have those who work (opifices) and those who talk (oratores).
And those with remarkable achievements on both fields can choose to appear as Viri Illustri.

[Tacticalwithdrawal]

just a thought but shouldn't this bit

This recreates the situation we have regarding the tripartite citizen rank. The names of the medals are, respectively; Opifex=craftsman (TW)
Discepans=debating/he who debates (CC)
Praestans=excelling, he who excels (general/misc)

be included inside the legislation?

[Shaun]

Support.

[Tom Paine]

Yes, yes it should, albeit in a different form - thanks for pointing that out, Tac. I'm also going to make this retroactive so all existing Opifices are allowed the choice. Please re-iterate support.

For those who want to know, the split mirrors pretty exactly the split between Artifex, Civitate, and Citizen.

[Halie Satanus]

When you have a second draft I will.

[Kagemusha]

So let me get this straight. If i suddenly become worth of this prestan award, i can then choose on a whim that in what field i exel? I never understood why citizens have the opportunity to choose whether they are artifexes,civitates or citizens and now we should reproduce the same mistake with the medals? What is this mania to streamline everything? If someone for example is a great debator,why should he be able to choose from one of the three badges/medals,when it would be lot less confusing to just give the person the medal/ badge he has been awarded?

[Tom Paine]

I have one

[Halie Satanus]

I support. Despite having to wait for V;1.2...

[Arakorn]

Can't we just create two different ranks instead? Or rather, keep the Opifex as it is (but change it to solely Modding/TW things) and add a Discepans-rank? I'd support that...

Please, at least ditch the mixed-rank, it totally ********.

EDIT: Agree with Kage, people shouldn't be allowed to choose. If what you get nominated for doesn't suite you, reject it! (OR PM the nominator and ask him to nominate you for the other rank )

[Tom Paine]

You can choose "on a whim" which medal to display, yes. Just as I could choose "on a whim" to be an artifex. Its not a matter of streamlining so much as of acknowledging that people can be awarded Praestans without excelling in just one area, whilst also reminding people that excellence outside modding. I might add that in the past, people were denied citizenship not for being unworthy but for applying for the wrong category - this mistake should be learned from and not reproduced herein.

Arakorn-eir, so should we also ditch it for citizenship, force everyone to display Citizen? I might add its a medal not a rank.

Trax, good point... I don't like vir illustris, personally (vir being man in the male sense) but Orator... the problem is its got a meaning of its own in English... The other advantage is using participles implies continued action and therefore the people getting the award should, well, continue!

[Kagemusha]

You can choose "on a whim" which medal to display, yes. Just as I could choose "on a whim" to be an artifex. Its not a matter of streamlining so much as of acknowledging that people can be awarded Praestans without excelling in just one area, whilst also reminding people that excellence outside modding. I might add that in the past, people were denied citizenship not for being unworthy but for applying for the wrong category - this mistake should be learned from and not reproduced herein.

Are you serious about this post? People should have three options just incase they dont know which one suits them the best?

[Arakorn]

Arakorn-eir, so should we also ditch it for citizenship, force everyone to display Citizen? I might add its a medal not a rank.

Yes, personally I'd prefer that. And I'm sure Kage does too.

At least we should make it so that everyone can have only one rank (ie, you can't have all three, maybe you must have citizen in order to make the system work, from a Admin CP POW).

[iudas]

I wholeheartedly support. It's my perfect idea of an award with the structure of citizen badges.

[jimkatalanos]

I support the new version

[Tom Paine]

No, its more like we shouldn't have three separate options because we don't trust people to choose the one that suits them best. people should have three options and be allowed to choose the one that suits them best.


Arakorn, that's a separate amendment; if you believe that's the way it should be, propose it.