Area of Recruitment Mod: 6.0 pre-release discussion/ideas

[OTZ]

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Well, I thought I'd go ahead and get this mod out there. KK hasn't been around in a couple of days, and I'm assuming (and praying) he won't mind if I release this.

I've playtested it for a few hours and it "seems" ok, but please remember I'm a one man team (for now) trying to balance my life with my love of this game, so there may be a few issues here or there.
Report them in this thread.

Here's the readme once again:

AOR MOD Readme

Version 1.0

Compatable with SS Mod 4.1

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How to Install:

Back up your files first (just in case - or you can reinstall 4.0 and 4.1) The following are replaced:

export_descr_unit
export_descr_buildings
export_units
axport_descr_ancillaries
settlement_mechanics
descr_character
vnvs
character_traits
battle_models
descr_regions

UnRAR to your main Medieval Folder, and say yes to copy/overwrite prompts

Delete the map.rmw file located in M2TW/Stainless_Steel_Mod/data/world/maps/base

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Release Notes:

There are three main areas of recruitment; Muslim, Orthodox, and Christian

The Muslim region includes Iberia, North Africa, Egpyt, the Middle East, Turkey, Russian Steppes and the Balkans

The Christian zone includes the British Isles, all of Southern, Western and Northern Europe, and parts of the Balkans and Eastern Europe.

The Orthdox area includes the Balkans, Turkey, parts of the Middle East, Russia and the Russian Steppes.

Within each of these areas, your faction can recruit its own units, based on religion. As an example England can recruit English units as long as they remain in Christian territory. They will not be able to recruit national units in Orthodox or Muslim regions until the higher level barracks are built.

When your faction spreads beyond it's own borders into enemy territory, you will be able to recruit some of that faction's units, as well as your own. When your faction goes beyond it's religious borders, you will only be able to recruit AoR units (depending on the settlement level you occupy)
If you find yourself in a different religious territory, you will eventually be able to build your national units once you have constructed the higher level barracks.

In total, there will be an additional 100+ units available for you to recruit (to see the full list, please review the export_descr_buildings file)

The skins are primarily the Rebel textures (Some I couldn't change - but I may in a future release).

Character movement points have been increased.

Population growth has been reduced.

Included Allu X's Retinue Transfer file

Don't be alarmed if you can't build any units at the lower barracks levels in occupied territory - it's intentional!

Supply and Overconfidence Traits have been completely removed.

All correct unit cards are in-game

Most unit-info cards are in-game (please report any that are missing - this was not a priority for me)

Your feedback is important - I am willling to implement more units and alter the AoR, but you have to let me know what you want (as long as it's reasonable)

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Known Issues:

The gunpoweder trigger is a little funky - let me know if you find you can build firearms units too early

Missing unit info - not crucial to the game, but 'll try and get them all n for future releases.
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AoR Units

Cavalry

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Boyar Sons
Heavy Horsearchers
Mailed Knights
Huscarls
Polish Nobles
Hungarian Nobles
Byzantine Cavalry
Arab Cavalry
Turkomans
Hobilars
Border Horse
Mounted Sergeants
Scouts
Jinetes
Alforrats
Polish Shooters
Kazaks
Magyar Cavalry
Skythikon
Desert Cavalry
Turkish Horse Archers
Mailed Knights
Turkopoles

Militia

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Archer Militia
Scots Pike Militia
Crossbow Militia
Genoese Crossbow Militia
Pavise Crossbow Militia
EE Crossbow Militia
S Archer Militia
Desert Raiders
Saracen Militia
Berdiche Militia
Bill Militia
Heavy Pike Militia
Partisan Militia
Halberd Militia
Swordstaff Militia
Swordsmen Militia
Italian Cavalry Militia
EE Cavalry Militia
Byzantine Infantry
Urban Militia
ME Halberd Militia
ME Crossbow Militia
Heavy Bill Militia
Hand Gunners
Berdiche Axemen
Arquebusiers
ME Hand Gunners
Guard Pikemen
Dismounted Boyar Sons
Broken Lances
Janissary Musketeers
Janissary Archers

Infantry

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Pavise Spearmen
Billmen
Norse Swordsmen
Highland Nobles
Armored Sergeants
Almughavars
EE Spearmen
Croat Axemen
Dismounted Huscarls
Dismounted Arab Cavalry
Dismounted Druchima
Dismounted Sipahi Lancers
Dismounted Byzantine Lancers
Berber Spearmen
Varangian Spearmen
Light Swordsmen
Light Men at Arms
Sword and Buckler Men
Zweihander
Highland Pikemen
Voulgier
Venetian Heavy Infantry
Lamtuna Spearmen
Naffatun
Dismounted Feudal Knights
Dismounted Aragonese Knights
Dismounted Boyar Sons
Dismounted Broken Lances
Dismounted Druzhina
Dismounted Polish Knights
Varangian Guard

Archers

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Yeoman Archers
Noble Highland Archers
Crossbowmen
Pavise Crossbowmen
Genoese Crossbowmen
Venetian Archers
Lithuanian Cavalry
Byzantine Guard Archers
Nubian Archers
Ottoman Infantry
Sudanese Javelinmen
Varangian Archers

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Thanks to KK for making such a great mod in the first place.

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DOWNLOADS

V1.0:

http://files.filefront.com/Stainless.../fileinfo.html

V1.01 (Attached to post as data.zip):

Unizp to your M2TW/Stainless_Steel_Mod folder. Say yes to overwrite prompts.

Please delete the map.rmw file after applying this fix.

• Janissary Musketeers and Archers added

• Burgos Fix added

V1.03 (Attached to post as export_descr_unit.zip):

• Added Point Blank's RC 1.3a adjustments.

• Thanks to Point Blank for converting their latest version of Real Combat to this mod!

Download/Install Real Combat 1.3a, located herehttp://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115991

Once this is finished, unzip the export_descr_unitR file attached to this post and copy/paste the EDU file into Medieval 2\Stainless_Steel_Mod\data


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OPTIONAL DOWNLOADS

• AoR Era mod now added 24AUG2007 - not available for two turns per year as of yet. This is compatable with SS 4.1 and RC1.3.

Era Readme

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Aor Eras Readme

Credit primarily goes to tornnight. I adapted his eras system to my minimod.

With these files you will no longer be able to recruit units earlier than they were histrocially available.

There are several new events introduced that will control when units (and even some buildings) become available.

To intstall:

Unzip the files.

*Backup your old files*

Place the export_descr_buildings file into M2TW/Stainless/Steel_Mod/data
Place the historic_events and historic_events.txt.strings files into M2TW/Stainless/Steel_Mod/data/text
Place descr_events in M2TW\Stainless_Steel_Mod\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign

Here is the list of additional events that will have an impact on recruitment:

STONE_CASTLES
game date 35 65
;(c. 1140 AD)

CONCENTRIC_CASTLES
game date 175 205
;(c. 1270 AD)

PAVISE_SHIELDS
game date 245 295
;(c. 14th century)

MAIL_ARMOR
game date 8 25
;(c. 11th century)

HEAVY_MAIL_ARMOR
game date 75 105
;(c. 13th century)

HALF_PLATE_ARMOR
game date 160 185
;(c. Late 13th century)

FULL_PLATE_ARMOR
game date 250 275
;(c. Late 14th century)

GOTHIC_ARMOR
game date 330 365
;(c. Early 16th century)

CANNONS
game date 220 260
;(c. 1324 AD)

HANDGUN
game date 245 285
;(c. 14th century)

MATCHLOCK
game date 330 350
;(c. Mid 15th century)

ADV_MATCHLOCK
game date 375 395
;(c. Mid 16th century)

PIKEMEN
game date 200 240
;(c. Mid 13th century)

• Two years per turn files have been adjusted and added to this post. Download and follow the instructions to paste them to the correct folders

• Projectile fix also added - corrects trajectory for archer units. Copy to your M2TW/SSMOD/Data folder - THIS IS ONLY NEEDED IF USING SS with RC1.2

[OTZ]

Frankfurt bug-fix added to this post

unzip and copy to your M2TW\Stainless_Steel_Mod\data\world\maps\base folder.

Remember to delete the map.rmw file!





Bugs and Suggestions

Fixed/Added:

• Need to add Janissary Archers and Musketeers to EDB

• Burgos

• Byzantium error in descr_regions

• Eras

• RC 1.3

• Frankfurt - no recruitment

To Do:

• Add camel Gunners

• Remove unique units

• Add more lower-tier units

• Correct faction textures - this is done, but not uploaded

• Eras for 2 turns per year

• Polish Knights needs a fixin

[JunkFood Knight]

Ill have to try it

[republic_bohemia]

I"ve also got to try it out,thanks for the early release mod.

Hi can you make a Guild of International Units of Recruitment for the Byzantium Faction please.

[Caesar Clivus]

I"ve also got to try it out,thanks for the early release mod.

Hi can you make a Guild of International Units of Recruitment for the Byzantium Faction please.

Surely that would be superfluous with this mod installed.

OTZ, just a quick suggestion. I know this is your mod but unless its vital to the AOR system, perhaps release the mod without removing the supply and traits system. There are people out there who do use them (believe it or not ) who would like to use your mod also. If people dont like Byg's traits, then chances are they have already removed them with files others have posted. Just a thought

[Mike13531]

caesar, that's easy, replace these three files with your original and it'll work.
descr_character
vnvs
character_traits

great job OTZ, don't owrry about the rebel skins, man, it's perfect. We think of them as our slave soldiers i'll have suggestions and feedbacks by tomorrow i have to sleep now...

PS: what did you do man? O_O, it shouldn't be that big... did you put any extras?

[Caesar Clivus]

caesar, that's easy, replace these three files with your original and it'll work.
descr_character
vnvs
character_traits

Oh I know how to do it, I'm just going by the old KISS principle: Keep It Simple Stupid It's just the old programmer in me kicking back in.

[OTZ]

caesar, that's easy, replace these three files with your original and it'll work.
descr_character
vnvs
character_traits

great job OTZ, don't owrry about the rebel skins, man, it's perfect. We think of them as our slave soldiers i'll have suggestions and feedbacks by tomorrow i have to sleep now...

PS: what did you do man? O_O, it shouldn't be that big... did you put any extras?

The unit cards and info cards - they take up most of the space...

[Allu X]

Wow I got mentioned

Good work

[Marine Hoplite]

How will this deal with the templars? They are a christian faction starting off in muslim land?

I think they should be able to recruit their own units pretty much anywhere. If you make it only at tortosa they will be an impossible faction, as you have to convert tortosa to a town almost immediatly in order to have any money to be able to do anything.

Glad to see this. I've always thought it was goofy to be able to recruit highland rabble in madagascar!

[OTZ]

How will this deal with the templars? They are a christian faction starting off in muslim land?

I think they should be able to recruit their own units pretty much anywhere. If you make it only at tortosa they will be an impossible faction, as you have to convert tortosa to a town almost immediatly in order to have any money to be able to do anything.

Glad to see this. I've always thought it was goofy to be able to recruit highland rabble in madagascar!

I thougt about the problems faced by the KT, and I felt they shouldn't have free reign over their conquered lands. They historically had a tough time. I think they can certainly survive on crusades, mercs, and AoR units. Granted, it'll be tough to play as them, but it's doable. I can always adjust the settings down the road if it proves too hard.

[Mike13531]

OTZ, i just tried it man, it's looking great, but i have to ask, where did all the unit go? i can't recruit any units anymore from cities, that's a bit unrealistic isn't it? since cities recruit militias?

edit: bug report, nothing can be recruited out of corinth either.

[Gordon Freynman]

You forgot to delete the map.rwm file .

Dont worry, I did the same thing.

[OTZ]

You have to build up a bit before you can recruit any. Starting at the City Watch level you can start building AoR units, and then Militia Drill Square allows you to start your national units.

If you find it's hard to hold on to conquered territory because of this, I can adjust it to start recruitment at a lower level of barracks. I just thought it would kind of keep the human player in check and limit blitzing style of gameplay.

[Mike13531]

lol, dude, before i try any mod, i always use cheat to build every building in the first turn to test out any bugs, i have everything built and nothing.

[Marine Hoplite]

So the KT can only recruit their units in tortosa?

that is going to be very very difficult.

[OTZ]

I'll have to look into the byzantium issues - I used them as my test and I had no problems with the AoR as I tore through Venice, Milan, and Mr Pope.

Again, just double check the map.rmw file was deleted - if not, I don't think you'll be able to recruit anything.

I do apologise if there's problems - I thought it was working fine before I released it.

EDIT: I've checked the regions.txt file and EDB, and everything looks ok for byzantium. I'll have to look into it further when I get home.
Can anyone else confirm Mike's reports?

EDIT #2:

Yeah, the KT should be tough. They have two locations for their national units - Tortosa and Cyprus. I may increase their range to include Jerusalem and maybe even Acre.

[Marine Hoplite]

Yeah, the KT should be tough. They have two locations for their national units - Tortosa and Cyprus. I may increase their range to include Jerusalem and maybe even Acre.

I'd say definately include those two. If the templars took Jerusalem, they'd have fanatical knights from all over coming to the holy land to sign up.

[republic_bohemia]

Hmm I think this is perfect for gaming hard.I mean if it is too hard than pick a lower difficulty for your style or pick a faction that does not offer to much of a challenge for you."Life equals hard,nothing is easy as you think"

In my opinion OTZ this mod should stay how it is,maybe make some improvements where units can be requested,but not to much because than it be too easy for veterans of TW.

So make two downloads Normal and Very hard a option for people,or just leave it how its now.

[beezneez]

glad to see it's been released. i've been looking forward to an AOR system. i tried "Pro Deo Et Rege" mod briefly which uses an AOR system, is your system similar as far as what troops can be recruited?

i like how this will affect the templars. you should only be able to survive w/ help from the Almighty playing them. the odds/logistics were against them.

thx for all the work, i'll report back after a decent play through.