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    I have two ideas right now... i had a third, but i cant remember it
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    well here it goes,

    1 idea: Missile cavalries for example, they are missile units until the ammo is out, and when they are attacked by another melee unit they take up their melee weapons here to. Now what Im asking and wondering is, Is it possible to add a function in the Strategy controls(Where you can choose to have formations, loose formation, disable fire on will etc.) and add a fucntion there so that these Missile units(Cavalrie and on foot) can change its weapon into melee and then just charge. So that you can use the unit in two way.
    Is this even possible? If it is, then its something i highly like to have because I hate it when Missile units always run away in vanilla (i.e Dismounted Dvor in russia, Good missile unit.. better melee attack then most melee units in the russian roster, still.. it was a hard time getting them to melee fight.
    I hope oyu understood my idea

    2 idea: This idea is not so necessary but I still tend to like it and Im just asking and wondering, so dont take it like.. Im demanding you to do anything. I want to know thats all.
    The minimap, In the minimap there are borders within every region. I mean i.e its a border between Constantinople region and Thessalonica region (even though both regions are ruled by The byzantine empire. Now what im asking is if you can make some kind of "tactical" map. Here is, the border Within the Empire/Kingdom dissapear, and just the border to other states are shown.

    Here is just a little example, if you didnt understand what I mean in words.

    The normal


    And this is the way it could be. (Maybe with scripts this can be possible?)
    Note, the turks and Armenian Cilicia, and compare it.


    Just some ideas ... I will try to remember the third one.
    cheers
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    which region is between Constantinople and Thessalonica in those maps ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Arsen View Post
    1 idea: Missile cavalries for example, they are missile units until the ammo is out, and when they are attacked by another melee unit they take up their melee weapons here to. Now what Im asking and wondering is, Is it possible to add a function in the Strategy controls(Where you can choose to have formations, loose formation, disable fire on will etc.) and add a fucntion there so that these Missile units(Cavalrie and on foot) can change its weapon into melee and then just charge. So that you can use the unit in two way.
    Is this even possible? If it is, then its something i highly like to have because I hate it when Missile units always run away in vanilla (i.e Dismounted Dvor in russia, Good missile unit.. better melee attack then most melee units in the russian roster, still.. it was a hard time getting them to melee fight.
    I hope oyu understood my idea
    For #1: You can actually do this now. You just alt left click on an enemy and your ranged units will engage in melee. You simply need to turn off skirmishing. After that, just alt left click and they will engage in melee at whatever target you told them to.

    As for #2, I think it's possible, but that isn't my domain so I'll let mirage discuss that.

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    Default Re: Some ideas

    #2 - Other mods have done that I believe. I think its done by making the primary and secondary colors the same in descr_sm_faction - though that could adversely effect other things.

    which region is between Constantinople and Thessalonica in those maps ?
    Thessalonica? There is no greece on BC's current map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage41 View Post
    Thessalonica? There is no greece on BC's current map.
    yes but we have byzantium which includes Thessalonica and those maps Arsen had presented show the balkans as well as middle east


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    about idea number one:

    i believe melee attacks are just an 'alt click' away?
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    Hmm well I have never really had any troubles with missle units attacking in melee, as long as you remember to disable "Fire at will" and "Skirmishing" before attacking in melee using the "ALT" key.

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    Default Re: Some ideas

    Oh sorry about Thessalonica and Constantinople, I was thinking about the Vanilla map and not BC map... but you guys understood what I ment. I could likely said the border between Tbilisi and kutaisi.

    Really? Alt click... omg, I DID Not know that. Haha, so If I hold alt and then attack, will they charge with melee weapons?

    And about idea2... If you make primary and second colours the same, then All borders will be gone, I want it to be a secondary colour, but that colour should just show the Border to Other nations, and not the border to Regions which are in your control
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Arsen View Post
    Really? Alt click... omg, I DID Not know that. Haha, so If I hold alt and then attack, will they charge with melee weapons?
    Yes mate, it's one of those TW cult secret's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Arsen View Post
    And about idea2... If you make primary and second colours the same, then All borders will be gone, I want it to be a secondary colour, but that colour should just show the Border to Other nations, and not the border to Regions which are in your control
    If you want secondary color to show up for the "national" border and not for inner provinces, then I can say that's probably not possible.

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    Really? Alt click... omg, I DID Not know that. Haha, so If I hold alt and then attack, will they charge with melee weapons?

    >yep, i did'nt now that thing the first days i played the game, but its something good, because you can actually alt-click with your missile cavalry and until they get to melee they continue firing at the enemy they'll engage.

    something i noticed with my french empire in MTW2 was that the mounted french archers charged enemy light troops like archers (retinue longbowmen), hurling a lot of men to the air, making a lot of casualities, changing they role to light melee cavalry.

    (sorry about my english, i'm colombian)

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    Thanks for learning me that , I'll have to try it.

    ahh, i was afraid it might not be possible at all... but Is there no way to script it that the regions owned by you... the borders are gone.
    Its nothing of importance really, just something I personally wondered.
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    Default Re: Some ideas

    Hmm I'm not hundred percent sure, but it might be plausible. I remmember I have seen it before, but wether it was the overview map in the section before you start a campaign or it actually WAS the tactical map, I do not remember, sorry.


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    i looked around a bit and i didnt see anyone having removed it like you mean, assuming i know what you mean, but then i like the barriers on the map lets me know where the hell i am
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    This is my armenian empire in RTW (my own small mod, that adds some units for armenians). I also changed the Minimap colours as Mirage said(though its not the way Im asking for now)

    I took some colours that i liked from Barbarian invasion, i.e scipii colour.
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