I've always wondered what is the truth of exodus? Because supposedly there is little evidence in ancient egypt to show any truth to it. However then why would the isrealites lie about there origins?
I've always wondered what is the truth of exodus? Because supposedly there is little evidence in ancient egypt to show any truth to it. However then why would the isrealites lie about there origins?
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I did hear too that according to an Israeli archeologist, there is no evidence whatsoever that that Moses, David, or Abraham ever existed in the first place.
"When one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion." -- Robert Pirsig
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"Women have made a pact with the devil in return for the promise of exquisite beauty, their window to this world of lavish male attention is woefully brief." -- Some Guy
Movement of jah people
Glorification of Personal history as means of getting recognition by having been related to a great power/civilisation/man/king, etc ???
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I don't doubt the existence of David, and Solomen, I do doubt that Moses was the Pharos step son. And dobt that there were all those plagues and such.
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well one thing is proven. The Jews didn't cross the "Red Sea" the current one we see on the map but rather its suggested they crossed something smaller like a lake called the "Sea of Reeds" as for the plagues and whatnot thats for believers and nonbelievers to debate. Do we know which Pharoah reigned during time period?
There is tons of evidence that the exodus was real.
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You have to remember that the Eqyptians thought that they were better than everybody else. If you think that, are you gonna record that a bunch of slaves raided your capital city and got away with it?
I've read that some claim that the Jews were in fact the Hyksos being kicked out of egypt.
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Weren't the Hyksos semetic?
Edit: If so then maybe the Egyptians did enslave the hebrews cuz of some racial phobia.
Last edited by Artorius Rex; August 01, 2007 at 02:03 PM.
NO Egypt text identifies any enemy as Hyksos.. find the word Hyksos
NO Egyptian text states Hyksos ruled any part of Egypt, nor that Avaris was the Hyksos capital
Egyptian text does state that they fought different battles at different times.
In that text it does not say any ruled northern Egypt but if you read the text they use, you will see that the writer stated that an Egyptian king ruled upper and lower Egypt.
The Hyksos caper comes from, trying to prove Israelites ruled Egypt.
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Because I have lots of pictures I divided the blog into one post at a time. If you are into the Hyksos caper, start here
http://hyksos-hoax.blogspot.com/2009/07/hys-chariots-horses.html
then at the bottom of each page, click on newer post
well more than likely the jewish exodus was more of a jewish rebellion coupled with mass migration :O
because in the bible it specifically mentions that the hebrews took up arms as they left northern egypt, and basically sacked several villages on the way out, this is why pharoah went after them, because of the violent way in which they left.--- this makes more sense than the god-man leading them piously into the desert, but im sure there is Some truth to the exodus.
I never really thought that Moses was a God man, but hey thats just me.
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well heres how i have come to see it, through many documentaries.
the israelites were a group who came to settle near the lands of egypt because of the better soil or some similar reason. the pharoh allowed this armed group to settle there because they acted as a buffer between the hittites and egypt. these people were often hired out as mercenaries to the egyptian army, but when man power was short, they were basically conscripted as labourers (not slaves, egypt didnt use slave labour at this time). workers of this time were treated quite well, but it was quite a drop in the social latter from mercenary to labourer. so the isrealites decided to move north, and were allowed to do so by the pharoh, but when they started to loot and pillage on their exodus for riches and supplies, the pharoh had to respond and sent his army after them.
the military part of the escape was quite brilliant, but thats another matter.
as for alot of the plagues the bible speaks of, those can be attributed to a number of things, particularly volcanic eruption.
Christian/Jewish historians & archaelogists will have the mindset that the Exodus exists thus when they unearth vital artifacts they shall view it in THEIR viewpoint rather than the more "nuetral" one because after all they are out to prove the exodus as fact. But if you have a more 'nuetral' mindset then you will not be partial to any one side of the argument & thus will have a better & more accurate result. This doesn't mean all archaelogists should stop seeking artifacts about THEIR own culture/religion but all im saying is that when one is excavating or writing a paper one must have a nuetral mindset which is completely missing from the articles in the sites given above.
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Recently there has been a surge surge in facts supporting the Exodus. I had seen a History Channel program which had a veyr interesting point. Why dont we look at unpopular Egyptian texts? They did and found one originating from the Sea of Reeds are which talked about how Jewish people had escaped from Egypt. This is the first known reference to Jews from foreigners.
False Testament: Archaeology Refutes the Bible's Claim to History.
http://www.worldagesarchive.com/Refe..._(Harpers).htm
This was an article that was written in Harper's Magazine a while back. Its sources Israeli archeologists who increasingly doubt that most of the OT is historically false.
Most of which has since been debunked.This was an article that was written in Harper's Magazine a while back. Its sources Israeli archeologists who increasingly doubt that most of the OT is historically false.
I have nothing against the womens movement. Especially when Im walking behind it.