Unorganized phalax?

[Archer of Sparta]

Whenever I try to manouver my men through the streats of any non-barabarian settlement, terrable things happen. I finaly got to attack tarrentium. A full stack Roman army in tarrentium. Whenever I play as the greeks its always a pain fighting in settlements because of the same reason, the phalanx will break every time you try to move it through narrow streets. It becomes more of a problem with a large army. Today in Tarrentium I was pretty sure I would win this one. A Roman general a good one charged upon my phalanx when it was marching through the streets. It was so disorderly that it couldn't prepair and the phalanx didn't deploy right. I ended up winning the battle but with huge losses. Is there any way to fix that phalanx bug? Or a mod of some sort?

[Jake.Q]

I think it stays that way unless you get a miod witch stops the long pike phalanx roma surrectum has great spartans

[LeonidasOfSparta]

Whenever I try to manouver my men through the streats of any non-barabarian settlement, terrable things happen. I finaly got to attack tarrentium. A full stack Roman army in tarrentium. Whenever I play as the greeks its always a pain fighting in settlements because of the same reason, the phalanx will break every time you try to move it through narrow streets. It becomes more of a problem with a large army. Today in Tarrentium I was pretty sure I would win this one. A Roman general a good one charged upon my phalanx when it was marching through the streets. It was so disorderly that it couldn't prepair and the phalanx didn't deploy right. I ended up winning the battle but with huge losses. Is there any way to fix that phalanx bug? Or a mod of some sort?

same trouble for me so I never fight settlement battles, I siege and wait them to run out of food and sally.

Leonidas

[Archer of Sparta]

Takes too long in larger settlements though. Sometimes I take a settlement but then I need my big army (my settlement taking army) for something else, and it can't wait.

[LeonidasOfSparta]

Takes too long in larger settlements though. Sometimes I take a settlement but then I need my big army (my settlement taking army) for something else, and it can't wait.

yeah i know...same for me either but do it when u can. use auto resolve but save before . no matter for loses if you are attacking large city cause it probably has good baracks so you'll be able to retrain units next turn

Leonidas

[Jake.Q]

You sholud never invade a settlement with out a army made sepcial for it

[Archer of Sparta]

exactly, sometimes I need to reinforce some field battles etc for the other armies I have so I can't just seige them and wait 8 turns till they surrender. @ Jake.

Oh well I guess there is no solution for the bug.

[LeonidasOfSparta]

exactly, sometimes I need to reinforce some field battles etc for the other armies I have so I can't just seige them and wait 8 turns till they surrender. @ Jake.

Oh well I guess there is no solution for the bug.

well good luck...try some mod

Leonidas

[SPARTAN VI]

Strange. In my SPQR/vanilla RTW hybrid that I pieced together, I was able to get hoplites in a phalanx formation to march through the city without breaking formation.

I was shocked. I barely got back into R:TW after about 8 months of doing other things. Having perfectly formed phalanxes marching through city streets was NOT something I remembered!

[Archer of Sparta]

Do you have your unit sizes on huge large normal or small? Because I have it on huge and they break formation easily.

[LeonidasOfSparta]

Do you have your unit sizes on huge large normal or small? Because I have it on huge and they break formation easily.

lower them

Leonidas

[SPARTAN VI]

Do you have your unit sizes on huge large normal or small? Because I have it on huge and they break formation easily.

Huge. With SPQR, I believe all my phalanx units are ~240, give or take some officers.

[allypup]

Do you reform your phalanx before you enter the city? With your unit in formation for the field, they usually end up facing the sides of the streets and exposing their flanks. I always reform to a narrow front before entering a city.

In pre battle deployment, select unit, take out of phalanx, the "+" and "-" keys change the width of your front. After battle has started select unit and right click + drag to change facing and width.

[Archer of Sparta]

Do you reform your phalanx before you enter the city? With your unit in formation for the field, they usually end up facing the sides of the streets and exposing their flanks. I always reform to a narrow front before entering a city.

In pre battle deployment, select unit, take out of phalanx, the "+" and "-" keys change the width of your front. After battle has started select unit and right click + drag to change facing and width.

Wow that helps thanks a lot.

Oh and the Spartans fight with no walls, so everyone else = wussies.

[Calyptus]

phalanx units are by far the worst units when attacking a city and by far the best when defending.

Starving cities out sadly is the main tactic with greece. Actually, my whole gameplan with greece has always been getting the enemy to attack me.

you could also try and besiege them with relatively weaker armies than theirs, so they sally the first turn, and hope u get a win

[Roman Clone]

Is it me or all of you except the guy above me have Sparta in your names

The Reason is most likely because path finding in cities is a bit screwed up, I don't think CA finished the cities.

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Is it me or all of you except the guy above me have Sparta in your names

The Reason is most likely because path finding in cities is a bit screwed up, I don't think CA finished the cities.

Haha I noticed it too. The world is not only Sparta .

As for Hoplite Phalanxes, I play SPQR, and hoplites can't get into phalanx. That's just better, and worse for them. Better, because they're still deadly, worse, because they can't just kill enemies with impunity by push of the pike.

But then, you could always use Armoured Hoplites, who can stand a tough fight. And remember: always protect any gaps with cavalry. While maneuvering, keep your hoplites out of phalanx formation and run them, if necessary. Use the right mouse button to keep them in order.

I know, sieges are buggy, but you still need to win them.

[LeonidasOfSparta]

Haha I noticed it too. The world is not only Sparta .

Spartans RULE man!






SPARTANS ROCK!!!!

Leonidas

[Marie Louise von Preussen]

Spartans RULE man!






SPARTANS ROCK!!!!

Leonidas

Yeah, against the Persian rabble and those effeminate Athenian philosophers. However, when facing serious and even more effeminate enemies they were owned. Owned by the pederast General Epaminondas and his Theban Sacred Gay Band :



Later on, everyone was forced to kiss the pinky ring of mighty Philip and his cronies, and watch in awe as their Macedonian neighbors did a hell of a job they weren't able to make before .

And even later on, the great bravery and sharp pikes of the Greeks weren't capable of stopping the wave of western barbarians. "I mean, see those legions? They can run, but not exactly when we planned!"

[consul belisarius]

Is it me or all of you except the guy above me have Sparta in your names

The Reason is most likely because path finding in cities is a bit screwed up, I don't think CA finished the cities.

seems to be a lot of 300aphiles around, but Archer is an odd name for a spartan, since the greeks despised archers as cowards.

anyways if i want to take a city i usually dig in close by first and then split up my army using a small group of hardy troops to quickly take the town square, which is often the case or if the fighting gets too intense i retreat back to my fortifications and either the enemy pursues me in which case i have an easy defensive battle or i have to resort to a siege.