What faction do you dislike the most?

**Rex Armeniae** · July 27, 2007, 07:22 PM

I thought that its so many... what faction do like most bla bla

And its interesting and funny ... what factions do you Dislike most

Dislike in, worst roster, worst starting position, i just hate those settlements, those leaders suck, their women look like my grandma.

**Tajir** · July 27, 2007, 10:37 PM

Venice, Milan, Sicily; tough race. They serve no purpose, however if they were one Italian Kingdom, they'd be interesting, but its just really dull playing as either of those factions.

Roleplaying is key, and there's nothing imaginative about playing as Venice; so bland.

**~~Miraj~~** · July 27, 2007, 10:39 PM

Milan. Booo to crossbow spam.

**Primvs Sextvs Loverlord** · July 27, 2007, 10:41 PM

I'd say Sicily. Again, crossbow spam + they hide behind the Pope, those cowards!

**Paul d** · July 27, 2007, 10:43 PM

The Pope Himself's faction... GRR

why arent the papal states on the list?

**Primvs Sextvs Loverlord** · July 27, 2007, 11:01 PM

Agreed with Paul. I once had a female Pope chasing me all the way down to southern Italy. She killed everyone I sent =(

**Amerikai** · July 27, 2007, 11:14 PM

Id say those backstabbing HREs. Never trust those joymans!

**Garnier** · July 27, 2007, 11:31 PM

I haven't played as any non-catholic faction for more than a few turns. Also, I've not played as hungary, poland or portugal.

If this is about factions I dislike to play, then all the above fit the category. I actually like sicily to some extent, but I hate milan and venice, they're no fun really.

My most enjoyable campaigns have been as france, denmark, england and scotland.

But in the end, I always go back and play SPQR.

**Lonely Guardian** · July 30, 2007, 12:45 AM

Well, in my opinion, the tougher is the HRE, you are surrounded by enemies, and you are constantly attacked. I always get frustrated when playing with them, but it also feels good when I finally manage to eliminate my enemies.

I also dislike Russia and the Italian States. Russia is so isolated, it is very boring to start conquering the rebel steppes. About the Italian States(Milan, Venice, Sicily), it is quite dull after you conquesr some settlements. It just feels stupid conquering the world with Milan for example. I also hate them as enemies, these early militias are very strong.

**Cayo_Julio_Cesar** · July 30, 2007, 01:03 AM

Milan, they get to powerfull with they gay crosbow+spear stacks and are 2 agresive, backstabing, and imho they shouldn't have been added to the game.

**Janezki** · July 30, 2007, 02:04 AM

PORTUGAL!???!?! They are pretty nice to play!

But as enemy, i understand

**Player44** · July 30, 2007, 03:17 AM

England then Milan

**LeonidasOfSparta** · July 30, 2007, 03:24 AM

Russia, they are too far away

Leonidas

**Janezki** · July 30, 2007, 03:30 AM

Is this topic like which faction u dont like to play or which faction u dont like to fight with ?

**KaerMorhen** · July 30, 2007, 03:35 AM

Aztecs no doubt about it - useless half-naked barbaric spear throwers only good to slaughter them!!!

**Black Francis** · July 30, 2007, 04:01 AM

Milan.

They ruin the historical feel of every game for me. They end up with most of southern France and Germany, often kicking Venice out of Venice too. I hate them.

**Lord Firkraag** · July 30, 2007, 04:03 AM

Milan. One city taking over half of western europe... Riiight. I can't wait wiping them out. I wish France and HRE could do it themselves and preserve the right feeling to the world map.

**Quark** · July 30, 2007, 04:27 AM

Well it has to be Milan, why are they in the game? Did CA find a rare tome on medieval history which said that this empire should have taken over the world, is one of the designers from Milan?.

The norman of kingdom of Sicily (orthodox) did exist, Venice was involved in the Crusades, but Milan, it was a single city duchy, important, full of interesting characters like House of Visconti, Sforza, De Vinci - YES, but a kingdom - NO. Might as well have put in the Duchy of Savoy, Republic of Florence etc. It would have made far more sense to have had the Swiss Confederation.

Next would be Russia because they never do anything.

**Pivra** · July 30, 2007, 04:41 AM

Why is Milan in the game? It shouldve been part of HRE. Genoa shouldve been a country lol. And, where are ARagon and Navarre? The map of Iberia needs to be fixed por favor.....gracias..