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Thread: [Citizen - Passed 6:2] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch)

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    Tom Paine's Avatar Mr Common Sense
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    Default [Citizen - Passed 6:2] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch)

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    Client's paragraphThe following reasons for my request to becoming a Civitate.

    Instead of promising or speaking ideally what I will do in the future, or how great I will be as a civitate, I will simply state what I have done at TWC through to the present day.

    I posted well most of the time, especially if it was a topic that was being hotly debated. I know that not all of my posts are long, thought-out, and intelligent, maybe just simply affirming what another user said. However, I know that while not every post of mine is life-changing or radically new, they have, for the most part, been at least thought-provoking, for the betterment of all who read them, debaters, spectators, and fellow forum posters all alike.

    I have also gathered some good reputation in the short time I have been posting here on TWC, and a great majority have all been for posts in the Political Mudpit and in the Ethos, Mores, et Monastica sections of the Themia Devia. I have never asked for reputation, preferring to let any rewards be bestowed willingly on me if those who read my posts thought well enough of me to do so.

    I have also recently finished my first edition of “Thanatos’s Theological Treatise,” which many people enjoyed, which is why I wrote it in the first place, and will continue to write them: Because people like reading them. I have the second and third editions in the making, and I know that people will enjoy them just as much as first one.

    I’ve also helped others in private PMs to me, whether it be from helping others post better, to building better muscles through different workout strategies. My time has also been well spent as a troubleshooter for Beiss’s Xenophonia mod for Steam users in my spare time. Even though Beiss and I came to the sad conclusion that the way Steam set up the M2TW files were simply not compatible with the way Steam ran M2TW, it was comforting to know at least that other people who played M2TW via Steam wouldn’t have to go through all the hassle that I did trying to install the mod, or any other mod that used a proxy shortcut to run M2TW at the time.

    That is all I have to tell you for now, I hope that my work so far shows that I truly care about the TWC community as a whole, and I would appreciate it if you would consider me for the position of Civitate.

    Respectfully yours,
    Thanatos

    Patronal ParaThanatos is a very active member in the Common Community. He posts quite proficiently, but most - if not all - of his posts are well thought out and thought-provoking. None more so than his recent article, Thanatos' Theological Treatise #1 which drew a positive response and there will surely be more to come. Some more examples of his intelligent posting style can be found here and here . From my perspective as a moderator, I can say that Thanatos is an extremely well-behaved member, clear of any warnings and rarely is involved in any trouble.

    2 Cautions for flaming.
    Last edited by Ozymandias; July 21, 2007 at 07:39 PM.

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    Default Re: Thanatos for Citizen (Patron: Scorch)

    i think its somewhat contradictory to say he is an extremely well behaved member if he has two cautions, both for flaming

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    Default Re: Thanatos for Citizen (Patron: Scorch)

    Quote Originally Posted by the Black Prince View Post
    i think its somewhat contradictory to say he is an extremely well behaved member if he has two cautions, both for flaming
    Hah, I thought the same.


    Then again, only cautions. So not a terribly behaved member either. My vote later, when I've had a chance for some research.

    More on the cautions would be nice as well.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    Original Post Cautioned:


    AI, artificial intelligence, is based on Boolean logic. Human thought is based on Hegelian logic. If you can't tell the difference, then there is no point in further discussing this thread.

    Go read some Hegel before you come back and try to "debate" things with me.

    and #2

    Ah! I see he's been banned.

    Good show and good riddance.
    Both of those cautions are not very bad. Personally I will say yes

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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    Quote Originally Posted by scottishranger View Post
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    Lmao... thats caution worthy?





    Quote Originally Posted by scottishranger View Post
    and #2
    Not really a big problem either. Quite minor.



    So those are each non-factors in my reasoning. I rather like his posting. And his "Theological Treatise" series gives him a distinctive flair. Voted yes.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    I voted yes, while he might have couple cautions, he is not a regular offender. Also, these threads proved me that he deserves the rank.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    (One note; everything is meant to be cautionworthy - every little edit in breach of the ToS. Its what cautions are for)

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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
    (One note; everything is meant to be cautionworthy - every little edit in breach of the ToS. Its what cautions are for)
    My point was that I don't see how that post is even vaguely in breach of the ToS. I guess if you wanted to draw out the comment really far you could argue that his "if you can't tell the difference" comment was am implication that the other poster was stupid, but it was more saying the other poster didn't know what he was talking about, which he apperently didn't. Pointing out that the other poster is incorrect is his understanding is kind of half the point of debate, so thats hardly caution worthy.

    Whatever though, I'm not here to argue staff's caution. It simply isn't going to affect my vote.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    I would say that Thanatos is an above average member of TWC and therefore will give him a vote of "yes".

    Those cautions are lame too.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
    (One note; everything is meant to be cautionworthy - every little edit in breach of the ToS. Its what cautions are for)
    You keep on saying this, but it's not true. The ToS still must be breached for a caution to be given, and it's unclear if it was in at least one of those cases.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fabolous View Post
    it was more saying the other poster didn't know what he was talking about, which he apperently didn't.
    Actually, as a participant in that debate ― which was a thread about AI in the Athenaeum, not anything philosophy-related ― it was Thanatos who had no idea what he was talking about. Thanatos was completely out of his depth and was being infuriatingly stubborn about it. His suggestion that people need to read Hegel to understand artificial intelligence was typical of his "contributions" there. I really wanted to stab the bugger. Hate those philosophy types who think they know about science. Still probably Citizen material, but only because I don't think soundness of argument comes into it much.

    Anyway, it should be noted that that caution was paired with a warning for Gaidin, the target of that remark, who responded poorly to it. Looked at in isolation, I would agree that the caution was excessive. Although looking back I still want to stab him.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    Quote Originally Posted by Simetrical View Post
    You keep on saying this, but it's not true. The ToS still must be breached for a caution to be given, and it's unclear if it was in at least one of those cases.
    Ozymandias said that: "every little edit in breach of the ToS." I realize he prefaced it with "everything" but I think that was a clear misnomer since it's absurd to think that every post should be cautioned and Ozymandias usually isn't absurd.

    Anyhow, that aside, I agree the cautions were minor and the second especially wouldn't have stood an appeal. However, I hold Civitates to a higher standard and I find him excessively haughty and demeaning to others.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    I cant say no to Thanatos. Much deserved, and I was thinking of patronizing himself myself.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] Thanatos (Patron: Scorch) (Closes 29th July)

    passed on June 29th 6:2 with 1 abstention

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