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    Is there a patch order you need to install in? Or can I jump straight to 1.3?

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    You can go with 1.3 without having the others installed.
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    Thanks, I've got another question:

    How do you find our your war exhaustion?


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    What I do to find it, I check the Revolt risk in any of my provinces.
    Ερωτηθεὶς τι ποτ' αυτώ περιγέγονεν εκ φιλοσοφίας, έφη, «Το ανεπιτάκτως ποιείν ά τινες διά τον από των νόμων φόβον ποιούσιν.


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    Ο Νούς νοεί τον εαυτόν του ως κράτιστος και η νόησή του είναι της νοήσεως νόησις.


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    Hoover you mouse over manpower and you should be able to see it.
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    Thanks all, this game is pretty hardcore :hm:

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    I don't think it is. It's a little difficult to learn it, but when you'll learn it, you will enjoy it.
    Ερωτηθεὶς τι ποτ' αυτώ περιγέγονεν εκ φιλοσοφίας, έφη, «Το ανεπιτάκτως ποιείν ά τινες διά τον από των νόμων φόβον ποιούσιν.


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    The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.


    The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.


    If you desire to be good, begin by believing that you are wicked.


    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.


    οὕτως ἀταλαίπωρος τοῖς πολλοῖς ἡ ζήτησις τῆς ἀληθείας, καὶ ἐπὶ τὰ ἑτοῖμα μᾶλλον τρέπονται.


    Questions are not necessarily there to be answered, but possibly there to inspire thinking.


    Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, - quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.


    If mind is common to us, then also the reason, whereby we are reasoning beings, is common. If this be so, then also the reason which enjoins what is to be done or left undone is common. If this be so, law also is common; if this be so, we are citizens; if this be so, we are partakers in one constitution; if this be so, the Universe is a kind of commonwealth.


    Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.


    There is no chaos in the world, only complexity.
    Knowledge of the complex is wisdom.
    From wisdom of the world comes wisdom of the self.
    Mastery of the self is mastery of the world. Loss of the self is the source of suffering.
    Suffering is a choice, and we can refuse it.
    It is in our power to create the world, or destroy it.


    Homo homini lupus est. Homo sacra res homini.


    When deeds speak, words are nothing.


    Human history is a litany of blood, shed over different ideals of rulership and afterlife


    Sol lucet omnibus.


    You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.


    Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.


    The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.


    Ο Νούς νοεί τον εαυτόν του ως κράτιστος και η νόησή του είναι της νοήσεως νόησις.


    'Nothing is true, everything is permitted.' is merely an observation of the nature of reality. To say that nothing is true, is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.

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    For a new player it is ^.^

    Anyways, another question!

    What triggers your ability to release vassals? As it wont let me release Wales, Cornwall, Northumland and Flanders (well, depending if the button isnt grayed out for some unknown reason)

    As I want to create Flanders. However when the button isn't grayed out it Flanders doesn't show up, even though I have one of their core provinces (forgot the name, its right by France)

    Do I need to control all of they're core provinces to release them or something? And why does that button grey out now and then... :hm:

    Anyway thanks.. if you can understand that

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    You don't need all of their core provinces to releash them, one is enough.
    if you are at war you can't releash vassals.
    Ερωτηθεὶς τι ποτ' αυτώ περιγέγονεν εκ φιλοσοφίας, έφη, «Το ανεπιτάκτως ποιείν ά τινες διά τον από των νόμων φόβον ποιούσιν.


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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.


    The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.


    If you desire to be good, begin by believing that you are wicked.


    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.


    οὕτως ἀταλαίπωρος τοῖς πολλοῖς ἡ ζήτησις τῆς ἀληθείας, καὶ ἐπὶ τὰ ἑτοῖμα μᾶλλον τρέπονται.


    Questions are not necessarily there to be answered, but possibly there to inspire thinking.


    Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, - quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.


    If mind is common to us, then also the reason, whereby we are reasoning beings, is common. If this be so, then also the reason which enjoins what is to be done or left undone is common. If this be so, law also is common; if this be so, we are citizens; if this be so, we are partakers in one constitution; if this be so, the Universe is a kind of commonwealth.


    Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.


    There is no chaos in the world, only complexity.
    Knowledge of the complex is wisdom.
    From wisdom of the world comes wisdom of the self.
    Mastery of the self is mastery of the world. Loss of the self is the source of suffering.
    Suffering is a choice, and we can refuse it.
    It is in our power to create the world, or destroy it.


    Homo homini lupus est. Homo sacra res homini.


    When deeds speak, words are nothing.


    Human history is a litany of blood, shed over different ideals of rulership and afterlife


    Sol lucet omnibus.


    You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.


    Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.


    The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.


    Ο Νούς νοεί τον εαυτόν του ως κράτιστος και η νόησή του είναι της νοήσεως νόησις.


    'Nothing is true, everything is permitted.' is merely an observation of the nature of reality. To say that nothing is true, is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.

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    There are three requirements to release a nation.

    1. You have to have at least one home province of a nation
    2. You have no active wars at the moment
    3. Nation must have emerged, either by time, or rebellion.
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    Also, install the latest patch.
    Ερωτηθεὶς τι ποτ' αυτώ περιγέγονεν εκ φιλοσοφίας, έφη, «Το ανεπιτάκτως ποιείν ά τινες διά τον από των νόμων φόβον ποιούσιν.


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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.


    The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.


    If you desire to be good, begin by believing that you are wicked.


    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.


    οὕτως ἀταλαίπωρος τοῖς πολλοῖς ἡ ζήτησις τῆς ἀληθείας, καὶ ἐπὶ τὰ ἑτοῖμα μᾶλλον τρέπονται.


    Questions are not necessarily there to be answered, but possibly there to inspire thinking.


    Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, - quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.


    If mind is common to us, then also the reason, whereby we are reasoning beings, is common. If this be so, then also the reason which enjoins what is to be done or left undone is common. If this be so, law also is common; if this be so, we are citizens; if this be so, we are partakers in one constitution; if this be so, the Universe is a kind of commonwealth.


    Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.


    There is no chaos in the world, only complexity.
    Knowledge of the complex is wisdom.
    From wisdom of the world comes wisdom of the self.
    Mastery of the self is mastery of the world. Loss of the self is the source of suffering.
    Suffering is a choice, and we can refuse it.
    It is in our power to create the world, or destroy it.


    Homo homini lupus est. Homo sacra res homini.


    When deeds speak, words are nothing.


    Human history is a litany of blood, shed over different ideals of rulership and afterlife


    Sol lucet omnibus.


    You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.


    Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.


    The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.


    Ο Νούς νοεί τον εαυτόν του ως κράτιστος και η νόησή του είναι της νοήσεως νόησις.


    'Nothing is true, everything is permitted.' is merely an observation of the nature of reality. To say that nothing is true, is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.

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    Haha, I feel stupid now

    Must of been those wars Portugal dragged me into . Thanks! Although I'm still not sure why Flanders didnt show up.. strange.

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    Because it has to emerge by rebellion, otherwise it has no home provinces to release it as a nation.
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    Why are you releasing vassals anyways?
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    I'm only trying to release Calais (to form Flanders as soon as I have the other 3 of its core provinces.. forgot names sorry) so I don't have to bother defending as much and I wont have to deal with conflicts on the continent (as much).

    Plus when Flanders is formed I'll make trade agreements so I don't have to put up with so much merchant opposition.

    I'm focusing on making a colonial empire. I seriously cant contend with France's manpower, its crazy. And I inherited one dead cow of a country, everyone wants to rebel. I feel like slapping them.

    And Scotland declared war on me (we had good relations too... ) and so now I have France and Norway on me.

    /sigh

    Going to restart again. God this is driving me nuts. Its the fact that everytime I think about raising some more troops I have that rebel list staring me in the face saying "If you try raising anymore troops to defend us, we're going to rebel! Haha!" /slap /slap /slap

    Damn. Why did the Hundred Years' War have to be in the fourth phase? I'd of liked to skip the whole thing together, and so then I might not have a dead country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woad-Warrier View Post
    I'm only trying to release Calais (to form Flanders as soon as I have the other 3 of its core provinces.. forgot names sorry) so I don't have to bother defending as much and I wont have to deal with conflicts on the continent (as much).

    Plus when Flanders is formed I'll make trade agreements so I don't have to put up with so much merchant opposition.
    Trade agreements hurt trade efficiency, so I don't recommend them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woad-Warrier View Post
    I'm focusing on making a colonial empire. I seriously cant contend with France's manpower, its crazy. And I inherited one dead cow of a country, everyone wants to rebel. I feel like slapping them.
    Going primarily colonial with England is normally solid, as long as you stay out of Europe (diverts too much resources) and have a huge navy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woad-Warrier View Post
    And Scotland declared war on me (we had good relations too... ) and so now I have France and Norway on me.
    Use your navy to keep France off your mainland, and use your superior size to crush the Scots quickly. Take as much as you can while getting a quick peace with them. They only become a threat with help from their allies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woad-Warrier View Post
    Going to restart again. God this is driving me nuts. Its the fact that everytime I think about raising some more troops I have that rebel list staring me in the face saying "If you try raising anymore troops to defend us, we're going to rebel! Haha!" /slap /slap /slap

    Damn. Why did the Hundred Years' War have to be in the fourth phase? I'd of liked to skip the whole thing together, and so then I might not have a dead country!
    If you want, when you restart, choose a date just one year later, when the war with France is over.
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    How'd you see your war exhaustion? I'd tried hovering over the national manpower pool but it doesn't show up?

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    Are you at war?
    Check also the revolt risk in any of your provinces.
    Ερωτηθεὶς τι ποτ' αυτώ περιγέγονεν εκ φιλοσοφίας, έφη, «Το ανεπιτάκτως ποιείν ά τινες διά τον από των νόμων φόβον ποιούσιν.


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    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.


    The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.


    If you desire to be good, begin by believing that you are wicked.


    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.


    οὕτως ἀταλαίπωρος τοῖς πολλοῖς ἡ ζήτησις τῆς ἀληθείας, καὶ ἐπὶ τὰ ἑτοῖμα μᾶλλον τρέπονται.


    Questions are not necessarily there to be answered, but possibly there to inspire thinking.


    Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, - quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.


    If mind is common to us, then also the reason, whereby we are reasoning beings, is common. If this be so, then also the reason which enjoins what is to be done or left undone is common. If this be so, law also is common; if this be so, we are citizens; if this be so, we are partakers in one constitution; if this be so, the Universe is a kind of commonwealth.


    Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.


    There is no chaos in the world, only complexity.
    Knowledge of the complex is wisdom.
    From wisdom of the world comes wisdom of the self.
    Mastery of the self is mastery of the world. Loss of the self is the source of suffering.
    Suffering is a choice, and we can refuse it.
    It is in our power to create the world, or destroy it.


    Homo homini lupus est. Homo sacra res homini.


    When deeds speak, words are nothing.


    Human history is a litany of blood, shed over different ideals of rulership and afterlife


    Sol lucet omnibus.


    You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.


    Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.


    The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.


    Ο Νούς νοεί τον εαυτόν του ως κράτιστος και η νόησή του είναι της νοήσεως νόησις.


    'Nothing is true, everything is permitted.' is merely an observation of the nature of reality. To say that nothing is true, is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say that everything is permitted, is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.

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    War exhaustion is just revolt?

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    If I remember right, war exhaustion affects revolt risk and available manpower but no more.
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