LAca's Byzantine Heavy Spearmen released

[LAca]

Its here :

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1521

And looks like this:



Some info on the model:

I did not use any meshes from the game, i made all of it from scratch.
I took only the face textures from the game (and 3 of them from Day of Defeat).
The model is based on reference images (the shield on the back too seems plausible, but i originally took the idea from the mtw1's varangians info picture).
The byzantines used long spears along with shields, in tight packed formations (not the western spear wall though). So i went with the 2 handed pike anims and schiltrom (they are more effective in this formation than in spearwall. I wanted to use the spear along with the shield, but it looked really weird in the walking animation so i put the shield on their backs when using the spear and on their left arm when fighting with swords.

Its free to be used with any mod (with credits of course).

The unit has both spear and sword - in schiltrom mode they use their spear only (even if u alt+attack).
In normal mode they can use both spear and sword (the latter if u give the alt+attack command). But watch out - if they are attacked (charged) when standing idle they will automatically switch to swords (its a game engine feature, cannot be changed) - it can be a problem when they are attacked by cavalry. To avoid this, give them the normal attack command and they will use their spears.
Otherwise they are very effective, especially in the schiltrom formation. I put them in the Varangian guard's recruit slot (i moved the Varangians to the town hall, like the janissaries).

Have fun using them

/Edit
Alternative version:
1 handed spear animation.




http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1530

[Domnul Ceaşcă]

They look nice

[B. Ward]

those look absolutely amazing man....dopeness....utter dopeness

[Serious Spamurai]

How do you make it so that a unit has a shield on it's back when using one weapon and has it on it's arm when using another. Very nice unit, the Upgrade especially, and of course + Rep.

[randir14]

Wow they look awesome, nice to see someone releasing stuff made with the model editor.

[Trajan]

Oooh, that unit looks sweet and will go well with my current SS 4.0 Byzantine campaign. Thanks LAca.

[scannerfish]

So how did you manage to get them to have the weapon 2 handed ?



If you can do that you need to make a teaser like unit . A Mace/Seleucid pikeman

[Serious Spamurai]

So how did you manage to get them to have the weapon 2 handed ?

He gave them the pike animations from vanilla.

[Pnutmaster]

Ohhhh, can someone say, rebirth of the Macedonian phalanx ?

I await to see what else you have in store for us, LAca!

[Mike13531]

beautiful work LAca! loving them in my byzantium campaign they are especially strong in Darth mod which i actually enjoy , having heroic victories with em

[Trajan]

I'm trying to add this unit to SS 4.0 but I'm having no luck with it. I keep getting a CTD at the splash screen. The error log says that in the export_descr_unit.txt, it can't find the soldier model battle "byzantine_heavy_spear". I added the add-on info to the bottom of the battle_models.db file, I don't know what the problem could be. Can I get some help on this?

[LAca]

I'm trying to add this unit to SS 4.0 but I'm having no luck with it. I keep getting a CTD at the splash screen. The error log says that in the export_descr_unit.txt, it can't find the soldier model battle "byzantine_heavy_spear". I added the add-on info to the bottom of the battle_models.db file, I don't know what the problem could be. Can I get some help on this?

Hmmm... Did you increase the section count (or whatever it is called) at the beginning of the file with 2 (first row)? Default modeldb is 701 i think.
Or you could add it not to the end, but in the middle somewhere (i did it and works that way too).

22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 703 0 0

The first row of my modeldb. Notice the red 703 - the default was 701. And i added it to the end of the file. You need the 2 increment because the 2 ug levels. Take a look at your modeldbs first row and increase that number with 2. That should work.

[Trajan]

Hmmm... Did you increase the section count (or whatever it is called) at the beginning of the file with 2 (first row)? Default modeldb is 701 i think.
Or you could add it not to the end, but in the middle somewhere (i did it and works that way too).

22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 703 0 0

The first row of my modeldb. Notice the red 703 - the default was 701. And i added it to the end of the file. You need the 2 increment because the 2 ug levels. Take a look at your modeldbs first row and increase that number with 2. That should work.

I'm playing SS 4.0 so the first row line is much different:

22 serialization::archive 3 0 0 0 0 799 0 0

This is the add-on info I added to the very bottom of the SS 4.0 modeldbs file:

21 byzantine_heavy_spear 
1 4 
65 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_lod0.mesh 121 
65 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_lod0.mesh 900 
65 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_lod0.mesh 2500 
65 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_lod0.mesh 6400 
1 
9 byzantium 
72 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/New Folder/byzantine_heavy_inf.texture 
79 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/New Folder/byzantine_heavy_inf_normal.texture 
55 unit_sprites/byzantium_byzantine_heavy_spear_sprite.spr 
1 
9 byzantium 
72 unit_models\_Units\byzantine_foot\New Folder/byzantine_equipment.texture 
79 unit_models\_Units\byzantine_foot\New Folder/byzantine_equipment_normal.texture 0  
1 
4 None 
9 MTW2_Pike 
14 MTW2_Swordsman 2 
17 MTW2_Pike_primary 
14 fs_test_shield 2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 
25 byzantine_heavy_spear_ug1 
1 4 
69 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 
69 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_ug1_lod0.mesh 900 
69 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_ug1_lod0.mesh 2500 
69 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/byzantine_heavy_spear_ug1_lod0.mesh 6400 
1 
9 byzantium 
72 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/New Folder/byzantine_heavy_inf.texture 
79 unit_models/_Units/byzantine_foot/New Folder/byzantine_heavy_inf_normal.texture 
59 unit_sprites/byzantium_byzantine_heavy_spear_ug1_sprite.spr 
1 
9 byzantium 
72 unit_models\_Units\byzantine_foot\New Folder/byzantine_equipment.texture 
79 unit_models\_Units\byzantine_foot\New Folder/byzantine_equipment_normal.texture 0  
1 
4 None 
9 MTW2_Pike 
14 MTW2_Swordsman 2 
17 MTW2_Pike_primary 
14 fs_test_shield 2 
18 MTW2_Sword_Primary 
14 fs_test_shield 
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

I don't get it, why would the game be saying that it can't find the byzantine heavy spearmen soldier model battle even though the info is in the modeldbs file?

ooo, dam!! i didn't even notice it was a different one! I thought the one in SS was it.. um, Trajan, do you mind posting it on the forum after your done?

I don't understand, what you mean?

[Locky]

Very nice. They look excellent.

[Mike13531]

ooo, dam!! i didn't even notice it was a different one! I thought the one in SS was it.. um, Trajan, do you mind posting it on the forum after your done?

[zxiang1983]

Hi, LAca. Great unit! I've already put them in game. It works like a charm!

I'll quote my question here:

will you provide lod1, lod2 and lod3 models?

[Mike13531]

oh, it's just that in SS? there was another new pikemen right? i thought it was created by LAca, but guess not. The point is, when you enabled the unit on SS, can you share it?

[LAca]

Trajan, in that case you can try 801 (799+2).

[Serious Spamurai]

Trajan, in that case you can try 801 (799+2).

That only causes the unit to be invisible, it doesn't cause a crash (unless it's too high). I'll see what I can do, give me 5-10 mins.

:o There's like the whole medieval directory in that download.

:hmmm: I'm getting a crash too, I'm too tired to mod now, I'll try tomorrow.

[Trajan]

Alright, I'll give it a shot.

when you enabled the unit on SS, can you share it?

If I get it to work, yeah.