a suggestion

[Orko]

what about that: if any muslim faction conquers the city of jerusalem, an english fleet with a crusading army will appear?

[Miraj]

Already done

[Georgian Knight]

Wow that's Great


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[Real]

Huh? But shouldn't there be like a Crusade or something?

[Miraj]

Huh? But shouldn't there be like a Crusade or something?

Yeah thats what happened. Whenever the KoJ looses its core settlements a "crusade" is spawned. Its basically a massive army that will be spawned for KoJ and will march to take back Jerusalem/Acre/Jaffa. There are about five crusading "periods".

1174 - 1195 : Frederick Barbarossa (Anatolia)

1190 - 1210 : Richard the Lionheart (Acre)

1212 - 1230 : Leopold of Germany (Tyre)

1230 - 1245 : Frederick (Tripoli)

1250 - 1270 : Louis of France (Damietta)

[iudas]

@Real
A Crusade like in the vanilla system wouldn't work, because the only Catholic faction would be the KoJ. There is no Papacy either.

[lord o kelly]

thats cool, didnt know you guys had implemented that

[ABBASID CALIPHATE]

yeah this is really cool thing,it makes people think twice before messing with KoJ.
cool idea to implant cheers!

[Sejanus]

That's such a great idea. But I also think that conquering Jerusalem if you're muslim should give you some huge boost. Like maybe increase the happiness in all your cities, or give the general that conquered it some HUGE boosts in benefits or attributes. There should be a SERIOUS motivation for the muslim factions to retake it though, otherwise smart players will just ignore it. Maybe the longer it stays out of muslim hands, something will go wrong a little more each turn among your own people? I dunno, you probably already have something like this in place, but I figured it's worth suggesting anyway.

[Player44]

That's such a great idea. But I also think that conquering Jerusalem if you're muslim should give you some huge boost. Like maybe increase the happiness in all your cities, or give the general that conquered it some HUGE boosts in benefits or attributes. There should be a SERIOUS motivation for the muslim factions to retake it though, otherwise smart players will just ignore it. Maybe the longer it stays out of muslim hands, something will go wrong a little more each turn among your own people? I dunno, you probably already have something like this in place, but I figured it's worth suggesting anyway.

Yeah I really think that there needs to be some sort of motivation to take it. Will Jerusalem be especially rich? If so, it shouldn't be too much, since that would give the KOJ players too much money, but if it isn't enough, players would avoid taking it, so maybe it'll be rich but not that rich, but give muslim generals a huge bonus for taking it.

[Ahiga]

Guilds can effect things on a global level, I think, with the ability to have them grant benefits that effect all your settlements.

Maybe we can feature something like that in Jerusalem, if it is at all possible

[Georgian Knight]

Good Idea, though the fact that Jerusalim is extremly rich city (Isn't It ) must be enought,so every player will dream about taking Jerusalem

[The Mongol]

Wow, you implemented the Crusader Armies already? Bravo mirage.

I can't wait to fend off massive Crusader armies in my Egyptian occupied Jerusalem kekeke.

[Rex Armeniae]

Lol, what the point in taking jerusalem then? You'll only get attacked by massive crusader armies. haha
But do those crusaders appear all the time whenever u take jerusalem?(as a muslim faction off course)

[AlphaDelta]

But do those crusaders appear all the time whenever u take jerusalem?(as a muslim faction off course)

There's about 5 crusades and the depend largely on the date. They also get weaker as time goes on.

Cheers

[Orko]

Whta happens if Jerusalem is conquered twice by a muslim faction in the same crusader period?

[Miraj]

For the first two periods all it takes is conquering it once. Even if you lose the city, doesn't matter. Barbarossa and Richard will appear. You have to remember that that "3rd Crusade" era of Richard and his crew represent the high apex of the crusades, filled with zeal and ambition. They will come to bolster the KoJ for sure.

After 1210 the crusades will be totally dependent on if a Muslim faction controls Jerusalem or not. If it does the crusades will continue. But if you're a Muslim faction around 1210 onwards and decide "Okay I'm sick of these damn crusaders, make it stop, waa! waaa!" then you can just hand over the holy city to the KoJ and the pain will stop.

[Orko]

I actually asked what happens if you are a muslim faction, you conquer Jerusalem, then the crasaders conquer it back, and you conquer it again, and all of this in one crusader period

[Miraj]

Well I sort of explained that, but I'll go at it again.

Example: Lets say you are playing the Turks or Ayyubids between 1174-1190. The moment you conquer Jerusalem, the triggers for Barbarossa will be set. Even if you lose it and reconquer it back in the same period it won't make a difference. As long as the code read that the Jerusalem was besieged and fell to a Muslim faction it will fire off the "message" to Europe and the clock will begin ticking for the Crusaders to appear. Any proceeding events will make no difference for the first two periods.

So the moment you conquer Jerusalem before 1190, Barbarossa and Richard will come regardless of anything that happens afterwards.

BTW: All the things I have said above have already been coded and actually works, so its not theoretical. Its what happens.

[Real]

After reading some things in this thread alone I think I'm going to download the mod!