Is this computer ok ?

[Simon total war]

I was wondering if all those computer components will match together since I'm probably gonna buy them for a new computer, Tell me your opinion or tell what to upgrade or change to make it a good high end pc,
I use it only for games btw so I dont need a 1TB harddrive

memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034
harddrive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136074
graphiccard
nvidia 8600 gts 189$
processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773
motherboard
I have no ideas wich one to chose
http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category...e=Motherboards
powersupplies
I have no ideas wich one to chose for the pc I want (what does it change in performance? )
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...Power-Supplies
case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119129

How does SLi work with the 2 cards beside one another with PCI-E ?
Are those components worth it, and are the parts all compatible together ? thankyou!

[spartan_phalanx]

HD, case and memory look fine.

For the processor I would say switch to Core 2 Duo You can get an E6300 or E6400 for the same price as the AMD there.

For the Power Supply, the OCZ GameXStream is a really nice buy, but you may consider modular cabling if it's your first build.

The motherboard will depend on whether you get AMD or Intel, also you will need to know for sure if you want SLI or not, cause you can get a much cheaper motherboard that way.

I haven't used SLI so can't comment there.

[boboftl]

Get at least an 8800gts 320 MB, that 8600 is way overpriced and isn't that special.

[Colossus]

Get at least an 8800gts 320 MB, that 8600 is way overpriced and isn't that special.

How is £80 overpriced for a dx10 mid range card, the 6600 and the 7600 were great performers, and from reviews on PC Pro, so is this.

[mrmouth]

How is £80 overpriced for a dx10 mid range card, the 6600 and the 7600 were great performers, and from reviews on PC Pro, so is this.

The 8600 is a good cheap card, unfortunatley its become all too popular to bash it. The fact is, its on par with the 7800gtx and can be found for $120!

$114 down to $99 after mail in rebate, lifetime warranty.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=14-130-085

Whats even more disturbing is that this guy recommended a $270 card for someone whose budget is only $600.

Ive found the 300gb version for as low as $230, but that deal is over now. For that price it makes sense to spend $100 more, but not for someone with a $600 budget.

Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...6036&Tpk=E2160
or (more$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=19-115-016
motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=13-128-017
or (more$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=13-131-142
ram/memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034
video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=14-130-085
hard drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=22-136-074
DVD/CDrom:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=27-151-141
Case/power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ATT=11-129-012

total: under $600 not including shipping and taking into account rebates. Everything is free shipping except the video card, motherboard and case, so your looking at under $30 for shipping.

You can overclock the hell out of this machine. Ive seen people exceed 3.0ghz on stock cooling with this cpu. If you overclock the cpu you will be able to handle crysis.

The case/power supply is a nice choice for the price, the 380w PSU is rated at 28A on dual 12v rails.

*note* when choosing the 'or' motherboard and cpu the price jumps to $687.95 plus around $20-25 for shipping.

[Freddie]

I was wondering if all those computer components will match together since I'm probably gonna buy them for a new computer, Tell me your opinion or tell what to upgrade or change to make it a good high end pc,
I use it only for games btw so I dont need a 1TB harddrive

memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034
harddrive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136074
graphiccard
nvidia 8600 gts 189$
processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103773
motherboard
I have no ideas wich one to chose but Id like SlI technoligie if its worth it
http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category...e=Motherboards
powersupplies
I have no ideas wich one to chose for the pc I want
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...Power-Supplies
case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119129

How does SLi work with the 2 cards beside one another with PCI-E ?
IS this worth it and are the parts all compatible together ? thankyou!

What are you planning to use this computer for? And what's you budget and hae you built a computer before?

[Simon total war]

This computer is gonna be for future games, (ex: assassins creed)
My budget is around $500-650 american dollars, with what I have up there it turned around $550
I never build a pc before but I have seen some people doing it.
I would say i'm not even beginner at pc building.
I can only put a graphiccard, soundcard and rams in a pc for now.

thank you Freddie and everyone

btw only the destop no monitors, keyboard.......

[Freddie]

I’m going to tell you’re what I tell everyone else who makes this mistake. Don’t build a computer now for games you want to play in the future. There was poster the other day building a PC for Cyrsis, which won’t be out for ages and he expects the rest of us to be able to future proof his new acquisition until Cysis finally arrives which is impossiable since we don't know what the specs are for Crysis.

When games like Assassins Creed (and others your want to play for example Crysis) and see what sort of system your will need to get a decent frame rate. I can’t speak for Assassins Creed but the PC your looking to build won’t cut the mustard for games like Crysis. Wait and save up more money so you can have a more powerful PC and thus a better gaming experience.

BTW I'm trying to upset you but trying to stop you from making a mistake.

[Flogger]

There was poster the other day building a PC for Cyrsis, which won’t be out for ages and he expects the rest of us to be able to future proof his new acquisition until Cysis finally arrives which is impossiable since we don't know what the specs are for Crysis.

This has been puzzling me for some time now. If computers nowadays aren't good enough to play future games like Crysis, how do they test it in the first place?

[Simon total war]

Thank you all for your good informations regarding my questions !

Freddie I know what you mean ( I should wait and I will wait ! but not too long !)
I have some questions for people who know.

0-Can you have AMD motherboard with nvidia graphiccard ?

1-What are all the parts in a computer if I would like to build my own? ( ex; processor, rams, graphic, power supply.....)

2-What is better between AMD and Intels processors for exemples those two..?
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
or
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor

3- Is it better to have 4mb cache with 2.4 ghz or to have 2mb cache with 3.0ghz in a processor?
4- What does it change when you have 2gb of ram or 4gb of ram?
5- What does it change to have a powerfull motherboard or a simple one?

6- Is this motherboard good ?
GIGABYTE GA-M57SLI-S4 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard

7- If you had to chose between these 3 processors models wich one would you take for its performance? and for its price ?
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103861
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773
-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115003

I thank you for reading and giving your opinion !!!
This forum is very helpfull for me

[spartan_phalanx]

1.
Components In a Computer:

Motherboard
Processor
Power Supply
Graphics Card
Memory
Hard Drive
CD/DVD Drive
Case

Common Optional Components:
Soundcard
Networkcard
3rd Party Fan/Heatsink

2.
Here's a good long intro into current and upcoming processors.

3.
Smaller cache will let you overclock better generally, otherwise larger is better.

4.
More ram is used to prevent your computer from having to use your har drive as memory (faster)

5.
Powerful can mean different things depending on how you look at it. Some let you push much higher FSB when overclocking while others offer more options/features. Your kinda vague in what you mean there.

6.
No experience with it.

7.
Definitely the E6600.

[Freddie]

0-Can you have AMD motherboard with nvidia graphiccard ?

Yes

1-What are all the parts in a computer if I would like to build my own? ( ex; processor, rams, graphic, power supply.....)

See the post above

2-What is better between AMD and Intels processors for exemples those two..?
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor
or
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor

Core 2 Duo E6600

3- Is it better to have 4mb cache with 2.4 ghz or to have 2mb cache with 3.0ghz in a processor?

Don't worry about it, it makes hardly any differance, but 4Mb is better.

4- What does it change when you have 2gb of ram or 4gb of ram?

It changes your choice of operating systems.

5- What does it change to have a powerfull motherboard or a simple one?

Powerfull is the wrong word, but more expensive motherboards have more features such as onboard wi-fi, active ram coolers etc.

6- Is this motherboard good ?
GIGABYTE GA-M57SLI-S4 Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard

It's an AMD board, get an Intel system.

I thank you for reading and giving your opinion !!!
This forum is very helpfull for me

Your welcome.

[mrmouth]

The major components of a PC are those in which I listed above. If your budget really is $600 at this point, and if you are going to buy now instead of wait, I would seriously look at the PC I suggested. Its a great bang for your buck PC and will overclock extremely well. In the future all you would have to do is upgrade the cpu. Its a solid base to build upon.

I would put that up against any other extreme budget PC anyone else can post at under $600.

If you have a little more money go for the 680i motherboard and the core 2 duo.

[Simon total war]

Thank you you guys
soo.... wich processor would you recomend me to wait for or to buy from newegg ??
and the AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor is equivalent to wich INtel's processor ???

thankyou again!

[Locky]

the 6000+ is alot cheaper then the E6600. Technically E6600 is better compared to the FX series. Go with the E6420. The E6420 is the equivelent in terms of cost to the 6000+, although it losses ground in certain tests to the AMD chip.

Unless you want to do alot of decompressing, AMD kicks the **** out of all Intel's chip when it comes to that. it's funny wathcing a 3800+ pushing down the E6600 to below it

[Simon total war]

OK here is my amd setup for a new computer, tell me if its worth the buck

AMD setup


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590 113$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152085 85$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130085 115$ + 6$
http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/...mit=ChangeItem 275$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025 70 + 15$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817148027 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106055 32 + 6$
= 730$ + 27$
= 757$
*(+something is shipping)

[Simon total war]

OK here is my intel setup for a new computer, tell me if its worth the buck

Intel setup

intel setup


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003 223$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590 113$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152085 85$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130085 115$ + 6$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025 70$ + 15$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813141002 180 + 8$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817148027 40$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106055 32 +5$
= 858 +34
= 893$
*(+something is shipping)

[Locky]

Well if you want to save some monies, the AMD looks better...

Even though i'm an AMD fanboy, Intel is probably better.

Oh watch out for the PSU, i'm not familar with that brand, but a good qaulity PSU is essential. And try to stick to the GTS version of video card, the prices are practically very similar, with a noticibal performence boost.

Oh yeah, and you'll need higher rating ram, 1000mHZ stuff, as the E6600 has higher FSB i believe.

[spartan_phalanx]

I would also be concerned with you power supply choice there. A $30 supply from a non top brand is probably putting your whole system at risk. Additionally your obviously looking to go SLI (because of your motherboard choice) so you should look for an SLI certified power supply. OCZ is good or even this 580W Hiper supply or if you must 480W Hiper supply.

If you need to save a buck to get a better supply, then drop down to the E6420 processor (save $37).

Your RAM should be fine, I'm running 800 ram with a E6600 oc'ed to 3600 just fine.

[mrmouth]

Christ that power supply scares me.

OCZ Gamestream 700w $140 minus $20 coupon code EMC713DOCZ7 minus $35 mail in rebate= $85 w/free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341002

Corsair 520W modular @ $89 w/free shipping
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-520w...203270716.html

Anyone need a 1000w PSU?

CoolerMaster Real Power Pro 1000w @ $179
http://www.case-mod.com/cooler-maste...db7bb5391fcd97

6x12 volt rails!!