Papal States

**nectar** · July 13, 2007, 09:01 PM

HI im, from argentina, so sorry for my english.But the reason im writting is to make a suggestion: I woud like to know if u can mod the spqr of the unmodified RTW to make them act like the papal states giving missions and starting crusades.It was only that.
Thanks for reading.

**BNS** · July 13, 2007, 09:29 PM

Hola nectar bienvenido a twc

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The answer is no,
It was planned for the papal states to be chivalry at the start of the mod, in fact a few units were created for the faction. But, but they weren't able to make the faction act like it should, you know the senate acting as the pope. Also some people did not want to have a faction that gave them orders. It was decided that the spqr slot should be given to another faction, so the senate was taken out of spqr and spqr is now the faction Bohemia.

**nectar** · July 13, 2007, 10:51 PM

ouch i was starting to dream about it...another question:¿what are the hidden efects or being king of something and what must i do to be a king?

**BNS** · July 14, 2007, 10:08 AM

¿what are the hidden efects or being king of something and what must i do to be a king?

Being King gives the character various effects like + influence, + troop morale, + personal security, + tax collection... ect.

The effects depend on the title, for example, the king of France obviously will have more and better effects, than the duke of Bohemia.

In order to be the king of something you must control certain settlements, like the king of England who must hold on to London in order to keep his title. Like wise lets say you have the king of england, now if London where to fall to another faction then that character will get the trait NOT king of England which gives the character negative effects until London is recaptured.

There are also more titles that characters can get than what they start with.
Like,
Taking Scotland as the English, which gives your faction leader " king of Scotland ".
Taking Jerusalem as a crusading faction, gives your faction heir " king of Jerusalem ".
Taking Rome as certian factions, gives your faction leader the title " protector of the Pope ".

There are many more titles, but I'm not telling so you'll have to find them

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**thoscme** · July 14, 2007, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by BNS

Being King gives the character various effects like + influence, + troop morale, + personal security, + tax collection... ect.

The effects depend on the title, for example, the king of France obviously will have more and better effects, than the duke of Bohemia.

In order to be the king of something you must control certain settlements, like the king of England who must hold on to London in order to keep his title. Like wise lets say you have the king of england, now if London where to fall to another faction then that character will get the trait NOT king of England which gives the character negative effects until London is recaptured.

There are also more titles that characters can get than what they start with.
Like,
Taking Scotland as the English, which gives your faction leader " king of Scotland ".
Taking Jerusalem as a crusading faction, gives your faction heir " king of Jerusalem ".
Taking Rome as certian factions, gives your faction leader the title " protector of the Pope ".

There are many more titles, but I'm not telling so you'll have to find them

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wow, didn't knew there were so many cool titles :surprised:
thanks for the info though..!

**Shadow_Imperator** · July 14, 2007, 12:47 PM

Any that a Byzantine player can look forward to??? Even just one or two.....

**palatinae** · July 14, 2007, 05:10 PM

yeah i noticed that the byz family members have ordinary traits, and the only thing to raise their management power is marriage (which i dont like)

**nectar** · July 15, 2007, 12:11 AM

great xD and whats the particular thing that the script does?

Thank for your answer

**BNS** · July 15, 2007, 08:56 AM

Any that a Byzantine player can look forward to??? Even just one or two.....

None that I'm aware of. Being emperor of the Romans isn't grand enough ?! I have seen a few titles for other factions that manage to take important Byzantine territories.

great xD and whats the particular thing that the script does?
Thank for your answer

It gives AI controlled factions cheat money when they are low on income. But we don't recommend activating it since it has been a cause for ctds, it will be removed in the next release.

**nectar** · July 19, 2007, 06:27 PM

well the ai plays very well with out dthat money, the turkish in my campaign with england had almost the east half of the map and my presence in Europe was crushed between the HRM and France

**DaVinci** · July 19, 2007, 09:38 PM

As England, you should first conquer Wales, Scotland and the north-east of Ireland ... then, well, the Normandie is the motherland of the Normans, keep or take it back, try to have peace with HRE, and break through to the south of France, for the foundation of the Angevine Empire ... if you can manage it, just try a crusade, take Kypros as first base and then go for Jerusalem.