Lusted batle AI

**Secadegas** · July 12, 2007, 12:32 AM

how about that.....Lusted.....do you dare?????

after creating the perfect balance for the units.... i dare you to create the perfect batle AI to complete your setings....

i think every fan of your mod back me up on these one

.......you can even tweak campaing ai......we give you permission

**Space Voyager** · July 12, 2007, 01:41 AM

There is a HUGE ammount of work in both of the AI needed and I don't see how Lusted would find the time - especially now that he has a job. I'd suggest using Darth's or Ultimate AI's tweaks if those fit LTC.

**Lusted** · July 12, 2007, 03:15 AM

I wouldn't suggest using either of those 2 mods with LTC given the balance in LTC. 3.0 will feature some changes to the ai to improve it, and changes to formations so the ai uses un its such as cavalry properly.

**GrandViZ** · July 12, 2007, 03:32 AM

Well, actually changes to the battle AI are independent from changes to the EDU.txt. You can always use the

descr_formations_ai.txt
descr_pathfinding
battle_config.xml
config_ai_battle.xml

without any conflicts to balance!

**Lusted** · July 12, 2007, 03:33 AM

Yes, but often mods base their changes to formations and how units are used based on the balance. For instance the way Darthmod deploys cavalry would be useless in LTC.

**Space Voyager** · July 12, 2007, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Lusted

Yes, but often mods base their changes to formations and how units are used based on the balance. For instance the way Darthmod deploys cavalry would be useless in LTC.

His cavalry deployment is also caused by the huge power of the cavalry... It goes through rows and rows of pikemen, LOTR-like. I didn't like it one bit.And the campaign is totally weird. But it's only my opinion.

I haven't tried Ultimate AI yet, but it seems much more likely to work with LTC because it doens't meddle with the campaign and (as I gathered) the cavalry isn't like tanks.

**Ludicus** · July 12, 2007, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Space Voyager

His cavalry deployment is also caused by the huge power of the cavalry... It goes through rows and rows of pikemen, LOTR-like. I didn't like it one bit.

Not true,I bet you just never tried his last update 3.
Of course,I am eagerly waiting for the last LTC version.

**jegui** · July 12, 2007, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Space Voyager

His cavalry deployment is also caused by the huge power of the cavalry... It goes through rows and rows of pikemen, LOTR-like. I didn't like it one bit.And the campaign is totally weird. But it's only my opinion.

You should try darth mod with his latest release (magic fix 3)... it's very reallistic and well balanced... Although they have very strong charge and push, cavalry don't always win if you employ the right tactics with your spearmen. I'm also eagerly awaiting LTC 3.0 but I don't regret having felt the dark side of the force

I'm also keen on trying UAI 1.6 and UBAI together when they are released

**Space Voyager** · July 13, 2007, 01:55 AM

Heh, I didn't know you guys check other mod's forums this intensly...

**GrandViZ** · July 12, 2007, 03:42 AM

I was referring to my own UBAI, and cavalry is deployed on the flanks - IMO the way it should be, so they can outflank the enemy easily.

**DARTH VADER** · July 12, 2007, 01:39 PM

@Lusted:

Of course all files interact with "AI" files. And this is why someone must be very careful how to adapt these to his mod. For instance charge settings, delay effects are also cross manipulated in config_ai....so if the values are too different you get strange effects.

@...the ignorant

Cavalry in DarthMod is not only in flanks but it does also the job.

@Space Voyager:

I suggest you try DarthMod with latest update magic fix 3

**ImKyleJames** · July 12, 2007, 04:12 PM

Hey, I'll wait as long as it takes to get an awesome campaign goin.

**ImKyleJames** · July 14, 2007, 02:51 PM

Spreading their tentacles of disease all across the net! Begone horrid wretches we haven't the time for your kind! We only want Lusted!

=) yw Lusted

**~~metenojo~~** · July 19, 2007, 11:22 AM

How to improve the missil units damage?They fire but not to damage in the enemies.

**~~Tony83~~** · July 19, 2007, 11:55 AM

As a true Jedi knight, equipped with partial plate armour, I'm sure the last thing Lusted will do is give in to the Dark Side.

LTC is balanced well enough, without the added complication of trying to incorporate outside influences and keep the original feel of your concept.

Sometimes, less is decidedly more!

**pajomife** · July 19, 2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tony83

As a true Jedi knight, equipped with partial plate armour, I'm sure the last thing Lusted will do is give in to the Dark Side.

LTC is balanced well enough, without the added complication of trying to incorporate outside influences and keep the original feel of your concept.

Sometimes, less is decidedly more!

I just add some Darth AI files and the big difference is that Darth use a second line of infantry , and his famous cavalry penetration , it looks good,i think that Lusted should improve the missile damage to.

**jegui** · July 19, 2007, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Tony83

As a true Jedi knight, equipped with partial plate armour, I'm sure the last thing Lusted will do is give in to the Dark Side.

LTC is balanced well enough, without the added complication of trying to incorporate outside influences and keep the original feel of your concept.

Sometimes, less is decidedly more!

Definitely... Lusted has got the force in him and that isn't the dark one

Originally Posted by pajomife@iol.pt

I just add some Darth AI files and the big difference is that Darth use a second line of infantry , and his famous cavalry penetration , it looks good,i think that Lusted should improve the missile damage to.

I believe that Darth has mentioned that we need to change more things than the standard 4 AI files mentioned above for his mod to work with the full power of the dark side. It's more complicated... Just search in his forum if in doubt

I'm going to try LTC now and check if the dark force is still strong in me :hm:

PS- Just finished my first LTC battle on H setting and I must say that Lusted got it right this time very well balanced units... AI charged on the flanks... into the line testing for weaknesses... chased and routed my archers... retrieved and redeployed infantry + cavalry... wow, I'm amazed!!! Congratulations Lusted the force is with you

**Lusted** · July 19, 2007, 02:13 PM

PS- Just finished my first LTC battle on H setting and I must say that Lusted got it right this time very well balanced units... AI charged on the flanks... into the line testing for weaknesses... chased and routed my archers... retrieved and redeployed infantry + cavalry... wow, I'm amazed!!! Congratulations Lusted the force is with you

Thanks Jegui, i went with lots of small improvements instead of huge sweeping ones as this it provides an ai and balance that works well without gonig overboard. With LTC it is the small tweaks that make a big difference.