Why aren't all factions playable?

**The Mongol** · July 09, 2007, 09:04 PM

I've been playing SPQR a long time but why weren't all the factions made playable in the campaign? (Other than SPQR/rebels obviously)

It'd be great to play Spain, Numidia or the Britons. Is there any SPQR mini mod that adds them, or is it easy to add them back in?

**Hadrian** · July 09, 2007, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by The Mongol

I've been playing SPQR a long time but why weren't all the factions made playable in the campaign? (Other than SPQR/rebels obviously)

It'd be great to play Spain, Numidia or the Britons. Is there any SPQR mini mod that adds them, or is it easy to add them back in?

SPQR is finely tuned and balanced because of it's battle intensive nature, so I believe Lt generally steers players away from major alterations of SPQR to avoid issues with stability. As it is currently configured, SPQR is an extremely stable mod and virtually free of CTDs, but as you previously stated that you have played SPQR for a long time, I assume you've already experienced this.

I think Lt didn't make them playable for several reasons. For one, I not sure it would be possible to win with Numidia, Spain, or the Britons in SPQR.
I know Lt was aware of the fact that the Britons historically stayed home so I believe he immulated that by taking their ships away. Also, invading the British isles is extra tough in SPQR because they sit, and build, and wait for you.
I believe he kept Spain as a rebel faction so they would also stay home and players could exercise their desires to recreat the Punic wars. They are the most powerful rebel faction you will ever face.
Lastly, Numidia would have only weakened or diverted Carthage's strength, as would have an expansionist Spain, and Carthage is ment to be one of the primary nemisis for the Romans in SPQR. Hope that helps....

**The Mongol** · July 10, 2007, 12:18 PM

Thanks for the reply, I completely understand. I know lt is a master at making the perfect experience so I won't question his abilities lol. They would have been a nice challenge though.

It's alright, this is easily the best mod ever for RTW. Long live SPQR!

*starts a German campaign*

**Turk** · July 10, 2007, 12:27 PM

do you want a all factions playable mod for SPQR?
i could do it now

**dvk901** · July 10, 2007, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by The Mongol

I've been playing SPQR a long time but why weren't all the factions made playable in the campaign? (Other than SPQR/rebels obviously)

It'd be great to play Spain, Numidia or the Britons. Is there any SPQR mini mod that adds them, or is it easy to add them back in?

The areas these three factions controlled are given to the rebels in SPQR, and last time I checked, you couldn't play them if you wanted...there are not units for them.

**The Mongol** · July 10, 2007, 03:25 PM

They are in custom battle are they not?

Turk, if you make an all faction mod I will worship you lol.

and +rep of course

**Garnier** · July 10, 2007, 05:51 PM

Guys, an all faction mod for SPQR is pointless, for this reason:

Numidia isn't a faction in SPQR
Spain isn't a faction in SPQR
Britons are a faction, but have no ships and thus no way to get to the mainland.