Swiss and Flemish pikemen

[Mellons]

Has anyone able to recruit them as any faction? Is it triggered for the latter time. Its just that they were already showing on the map as rebels. As the HRE I taken Bern and Antwerp hoping to secure my manpower for pikemen only to find out I can build them through Merc or gov buildings.

[Phil Stanbridge]

I've seen them recruitable as mercs later in the game playing as England - but I haven't played as a faction that allows you to build them yet.

[Mellons]

So you do have to wait until later. Thanks.