Gay Marriage

[Temur]

What is your opinion?
There might be a topic like this already. I'm new I don't know
EDIT: I dont know how to add polls.

[Gary88]

people who want to engage in a long term monogamous loving relationship, what are they mad?

[jimkatalanos]

I'm against it.

[The Super Pope]

I don't see the point in Gay Marriage. Marriage is a church sanctioned way of having sex for the purpose of children. Gay sex is entirly sex for pleasure so you can't get married. Simple as

[Erik]

Marriage is a church sanctioned way of having sex for the purpose of children.

Marriage pre-dates the Church by thousands of years.

So it's either a private or a State institution, the Church has nothing to do with it.
That's also why atheists and other non-Christians can get married.

I think marriage is lame.
But if some gays want to get married so much, then I don't see any argument against it.

[VALIS]

I am against gays getting married in church.
I suppose if they wanted to write there names down on a piece of paper and get recognized as being together in a registra office then that would be ok, i guess.

[Lusted]

people who want to engage in a long term monogamous loving relationship, what are they mad?

What he said.

[removeduser_487563287433]

I'm all for it. Let them do what they please. Fortunately I don't have any archaic religion of 'love, peace and friendship' (insert whatever religion you want, will likely fit) telling me to oppress homosexuals.

[LoZz]

only problem with gay marriage is it will leed to gay devorce, and that will be *****y!

but seriously i have nothing against gay marriage or even adoption.

i did at first question the adoption till a gay family appeared on wife swap and now i am ok with it, it just took me a while to realise that they behaved just like a normal family and it didnt seem to effect their children as they dated people of the oposit sex and their parents where happy with that. so along as nether side trys to force their sexuallity on the other, thats its acceptable.

[removeduser_487563287433]

I'm not convinced about gay adoption. Thing is, we have many, many parents who want to adopt and I'm afraid it is our obligation to give them the best parents available - and the stigma and bullying that will be associated with gay parents is obvious.

[Gary88]

actually there are far more kids needing homes than mixed sex families wanting them (just think of all the kids in foster care) im all for a loving environment for those kids whatever the sexual orientation of the family

[removeduser_487563287433]

actually there are far more kids needing homes than mixed sex families wanting them (just think of all the kids in foster care) im all for a loving environment for those kids whatever the sexual orientation of the family

There are stark differences between those who wish to adopt and those who would foster. Those who want to adopt want a young child to mould in their image and raise as their own. Foster children are often from troubled backgrounds with troubled pasts, requiring a lot of work and care just to get into a socially acceptable position. Yeah, let gay people foster, sure. Adopt, I'm afraid there is a massive backlog of heterosexual couples that can simply prevent those children from having to face bullying of this variety.

The vulnrable child is more important than the homosexual couple.

Gay adoption should not be allowed. It causes mental problems to the adopted child.

There's been no evidence of that in many studies.

[Temur]

I have no problem with it. It is their right they are people too.

[jimkatalanos]

Gay adoption should not be allowed. It causes mental problems to the adopted child.

[LoZz]

Gay adoption should not be allowed. It causes mental problems to the adopted child.

and the evidence for this ? the girls on this wifeswap show seem normal to me despite having gay parents?

I'm not convinced about gay adoption. Thing is, we have many, many parents who want to adopt and I'm afraid it is our obligation to give them the best parents available - and the stigma and bullying that will be associated with gay parents is obvious.

gay parents can be just as good as any other parents, the only problem is the bullying they will get at school, but loads of kids with straght parents get bullied so i dont think bullying is a real issue as ive heared as many as 1 in 3 get bullied at some point in school anyway.

theirs loads of kids in care, fostering, homes, and their are not enough people wanting to adopt, 2 parent families or otherwise so i think the more the better. as long as the kid is with someone or people who love him/her and provide everything that child needs i dont think their sexuallity or the marital status should play a factor.

Usually they become gay.

crap, if your parents sexually played a part how do you explain straght people having children turning gay?!

There are stark differences between those who wish to adopt and those who would foster. Those who want to adopt want a young child to mould in their image and raise as their own. Foster children are often from troubled backgrounds with troubled pasts, requiring a lot of work and care just to get into a socially acceptable position. Yeah, let gay people foster, sure. Adopt, I'm afraid there is a massive backlog of heterosexual couples that can simply prevent those children from having to face bullying of this variety.

many heterosexual couples are desperate for children, but i always felt most where still at the trying the natural way stage or IVF, theirs load of kids in the foster system and child homes looking for would-be parents to come and adopt them. so their cant be that many people wanted to adopt

[removeduser_487563287433]

gay parents can be just as good as any other parents, the only problem is the bullying they will get at school, but loads of kids with straght parents get bullied so i dont think bullying is a real issue as ive heared as many as 1 in 3 get bullied at some point in school anyway.

theirs loads of kids in care, fostering, homes, and their are not enough people wanting to adopt, 2 parent families or otherwise so i think the more the better. as long as the kid is with someone or people who love him/her and provide everything that child needs i dont think their sexuallity, the marital status should play a factor

Homosexual parenting skills are not under question, but the bullying and the associated stigma on the playground is obvious and undeniable and there is no reason to expose children to that if it can be avoided. Arguing that we should ignore that because many children get bullied anyway is like leaving your front door open because there's a chance a burgular may just smash open a window.

Jim, being raised by homosexual parents does not make you gay. Sexuality is not something affected by environmental matters.

[LoZz]

Homosexual parenting skills are not under question, but the bullying and the associated stigma on the playground is obvious and undeniable and there is no reason to expose children to that if it can be avoided. Arguing that we should ignore that because many children get bullied anyway is like leaving your front door open because there's a chance a burgular may just smash open a window.

sadly i cant argue with that its true and no amount of political correctness in the system is going to effect the school play ground. and of course the welfare of the child is top priority, such a shame though it is like that.

btw does anyone know if gays can adopt in the UK, and are things like bullying considered?

Meh , marriage is over-rated anyway. If homosexuals want to be over taxed and stuck with the burdens of marriage let them have it.

do you get taxed for being married? i always thought two people living in one house is cheaper then one person in one house

[removeduser_487563287433]

sadly i cant argue with that its true and no amount of political correctness in the system is going to effect the school play ground. and of course the welfare of the child is top priority, such a shame though it is like that.

btw does anyone know if gays can adopt in the UK, and are things like bullying considered?

Homosexuals can either adopt in the UK, or legislation has been passed to say so and they will in the near future. I'm not sure which. A few months ago the government ordered the Catholic Church to not discriminate on sexuality in their adoption services and they replied they would sooner shut it down and kick the children out. Not sure how that turned out.

[sdjenkyn]

do you get taxed for being married? i always thought two people living in one house is cheaper then one person in one house

Living in the same house would be "room mates" and is certainly cheaper . In the US there is a marriage penalty tax although its offset somewhat by child tax credits.

[Gary88]

care to elaborate on your reasoning jim, i assume the gay marriage is a religious thing