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    In a history lesson this week (Module- The Decline of Spain) an arab kid took exception to the use of the term 'Moor'. I always thought that's what the people were called, like Berbers

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    im not sure, would that be like calling a german a Hun?

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    What did he expect them to be called "Conquering Exalted Submitters to Allah from North Africa"?

    EDIT: I just wikied it. It's just a description of geographical origin, nothing more, nothing less. Next time you see the kid/guy, make sure you use the term "Moor".
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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    What did he expect them to be called "Conquering Exalted Submitters to Allah from North Africa"?
    CESANA for short then?

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    Well Wiki says this about it
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    Although the Moors came to be by definition Muslim, the name Moor pre-dates Islam. Perhaps it derives from the small Numidian Kingdom of Maure of the third century BCE in what is now Morocco. Yet the origins of the word Moor remain unclear
    "Moor" comes from the Greek word mauros (plural mauroi), meaning "black" or "very dark", which in Latin became Mauro (plural Mauri). However, anthropologists have noted that these terms are very subjective. "In the Romance languages (Spanish, French, and Italian) of Medieval Europe, Moor was translated as Moro, Moir and Mor. Derivatives of the word Moor may be found even today in these same languages.
    While it seems rasict there are quite a few words that we use describing races that would be considered racist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    What did he expect them to be called "Conquering Exalted Submitters to Allah from North Africa"?
    No, probably not. Don't be fecicious.
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    That sounds like an American banking firm

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    Yes, I believe Moor is acceptable. Tell the kid to stop being so politically correct.

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    Calling a black man "black" or if he is very black-skinned "very dark" is not offensive. So why should calling a North African dark-skinned muslim "Moor" be? That is what they were called, and for centuries if not thousands of years.

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    “Is Moors an acceptable term” ?

    Yes. Specially if you use the term referring the Moors.

    But, if you are referring the Northwest African as a whole: No.

    And also it is not correct to say that Moor=Muslim, as it was said in the wiki quote the term is previous to the Muslim invasion of the Magreb.

    The term had some continuous use as a synonym of Northwest African Muslins by the Christian historians over the centuries.
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    To be honest I think the kid was full of crap, but people have the right not to be called things that they find offensive, within reason of course.

    I just don't understand the fear of "political correctness". To me it just means being polite.
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    Sshhh boofhead, you are making too much sense....

    Ok then Beowulf, I have the right to not be called "white"....I demand to be called Sir Vikingsex.

    No really, do they have the right to not be called something they find "offensive" when the only reason they find it offensive is due to their own ignorance of the term, and as a result of seeing insults everywhere, owing to their thin skin and PC brain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyj View Post
    Sshhh boofhead, you are making too much sense....

    Ok then Beowulf, I have the right to not be called "white"....I demand to be called Sir Vikingsex.

    No really, do they have the right to not be called something they find "offensive" when the only reason they find it offensive is due to their own ignorance of the term, and as a result of seeing insults everywhere, owing to their thin skin and PC brain?
    Like I said, within reason. I'm not advocating calling people whatever they want, but there is something to be said for basic respect. If there is some kid who would rather be called Moroccan, or Arab or whatever rather then Moorish, then there is no reason to make a federal case about it. The OP didn't say, but for all we know the kid may have had a real good reason why he did not what to be called a Moor.

    As a Native American, I personally don't like to be called "Indian" although I can't say that I care that much. It's not that I find the term Indian offensive, It's just that I'm not from India. Some people get really upset if I bring this up (can't imagine why) but it's not like I'm all that choosey. You can call me "red" if you like, because I am.
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    lol probably calling him a Moor will get you suspended from school under the guise of racism( hate crime). yet someone calling me anglo-saxon, or Wasp would be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    lol probably calling him a Moor will get you suspended from school under the guise of racism( hate crime). yet someone calling me anglo-saxon, or Wasp would be ok.
    It'd be more than ok, it'd be cause for giving them an "ideal citizen" award.


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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyj View Post
    It'd be more than ok, it'd be cause for giving them an "ideal citizen" award.
    medal of freedom? good job browny

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    I demand that from now on, people only call him "superior white man who brings freedom and modern civilization to the world".
    When the cops send in their best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bohemond View Post
    I demand that from now on, people only call him "superior white man who brings freedom and modern civilization to the world".
    doesnt make itself into a nice acroynm like Cesana did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scheuch13 View Post
    doesnt make itself into a nice acroynm like Cesana did.
    How about Sam? Superior Anglo Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Bohemond View Post
    How about Sam? Superior Anglo Man.
    well we already have the term uncle sam. but it just took on new definition for me ? sweet!

    you already call us Yank, or yanke though, that offends southerns.

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