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Enjoy. This video debunks the BBC's heavily biased 9/11 program shown a little bit ago.![]()
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Enjoy. This video debunks the BBC's heavily biased 9/11 program shown a little bit ago.![]()
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Its 1 hour 20 minutes long, not really practical to watch. I am however interested to hear your view on what happened during 9/11. And if I remember correctly the program your talking about spent a good 45 minutes talking about the various conspiracies and at most 15 minutes providing evidence against them. To me that says it was titled more towards the theories.
Can you sum up the video? It's too big.
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biased 9/11 programing? biased towards what exactly?
i just watched 5 minutes and it seemed pissed of that the BBC didnt give enough time to conspiracy theories about the US government being behind 9/11. its not biased news its news. they repot facts and information about events that have happened
Last edited by Gary88; July 01, 2007 at 09:36 AM.
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I watched a bit of it and it seems like they video is trying to call out the BBC for not criticizing all the false reasons and lies that happened on 9/11 and the following days and the commission report.
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yeah it had clips of some guy saying the way the trade centre fell down is in line with how a building falls down when explosives are used...well a ****ing plane flew into it and exploded. but seriously the BBC cant devote time to every idea someone has.
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Well the BBC did devote a program to the conspiracy theories about 9/11 during a season of programs on consipracy theories, but i don't think it really gave much credibility to them, because, well, they're not very credible by their nature.
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Like I said before they spent at least 45 minutes of that program actually talking about the conspiracy theories, this was the people who believed them or had come up with them or whatever and at most 15 minutes providing evidence against all of them right at the end. Whose that biased in-favour of time wise?
Has it not occurred to you that the theories were so flimsy that it didn't need more than 15 minutes to blow them out the water? Christ it is ****ing depressing that we're still chewing this **** over. Next up: New internet evidence shows the Zapruder footage was actually an animation produced by Walt Disney in collaboration with the CIA, Marlboro Light cigarettes and Rudolph Hess.
Well I didn't see the original show but it seems like the BBC didn't devote ANY time to what really happened. They just spoon fed the same regurgitated BS. The best part is when they interview the guy about the WTC 7 building which collapsed 7 hours after the twin towers. No Planes flew into it at all. It just got damaged and collapsed exactly like a controlled demolition. And the supposed expert from popular mechanics just basically says yeah it does look like it was a controlled demolition but it just wasn't. He gives no theory or facts to what really happened he says it just wasn't. Also the 9/11 commission doesn't even mention WTC 7 building at all. I don't understand why people constantly think it is wrong to investigate and criticize what happened on 9/11 and just accept the governments answers. Since when did seeking the truth turn so bad?
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it didnt but critisizing the BBC for only reporting the facts and announcements is a bit stupid
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Unreal that people still think the 9/11 conspiracy was anything other than a conspiracy by Muslim fascists.
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I can't believe there are people who think 911 wasn't a conspiracy.
Here is a nice video on it, very long but informative and entertaining:
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If the 9/11 events where not a conspiracy than I need to get the phone number of the guy who insured the buildings against terrorist attacks two weeks before it happened, and got a couple of billion for the damages afterwards. Maybe he can give me the lotto numbers![]()
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"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
If the Google video link doesn't work here is a few parts on you tube:
1 of 12
2 of 12
3 of 12
The other parts you can get by clicking more from same user and I also have it with Dutch subtitles if anyones interested.
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Herman Göring (Field Marshall General)
"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
It's easy being a conspiracy theorist. You just have to ask questions, you don't have to provide [correct] answers.
That is how every conversation starts as by asking questions ( you may be a conspiracy theorist when you first ask a question, yes at this point it is a theory, but once you provide factual evidence it stops being a theory and becomes an investigation ), then somebody provides you with an answer and then you scrutinize their answer ( and so on ).
Here is a site that offers counterpoints to some of the arguments made in the movie.
http://www.debunking911.com/firsttime.htm
Herman Göring (Field Marshall General)
"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
If you do this the risk decreases
This specific buildings where made to take airplane crashes, the official reason to why they fell was the jet fuel burned at a very high temperature and caused the steel to weaken. But you can clearly see when the plane hit most of the jet fuel exploded in a fireball, and later you can see the fire die out and only smoke could be seen. If it was so hot ( 2700 degrees steels melting point ) how come people where able to go down the stairs and how where the people near the area where the planes hit ( the ones who where near the windows calling for help) able to survive the intense heat, how did steel parts and other stuff end up in neighboring buildings far away. (in the # 3 video it shows theses things )
Herman Göring (Field Marshall General)
"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
I'd rather have my answer on "why the towers fell" from a bunch of renowned professors that have the respect of the international intellectual community for their respective works, books, researches, etc; than some a bunch of kiddies who dropped out of journalism school.
Even a anti-american anti-israel left-wing lunacy Noam Chomsky has no made such claims of a so called "conspiracy".
Last edited by Matt; July 03, 2007 at 11:33 PM.