why china do not war with vietnam, burma, laos?

[Medieval Lord 10]

why china never expanded their border to vietnam, burma, laos, thailand, malaysian, and all in south border of china.. i only hear about invasion to west, east and north..

[invictus]

You ask so many questions that can easily be answered. It is similar to why doesnt the US invade mexico and canada and make north america 1 nation. -Leon

[Medieval Lord 10]

only want to hear opinion.. if you don't mind.. if that easy so what you know about this?

[Hans Kloss]

There was a war between China and Vietnam in 1979 over some frontier territories

[Icefrisco]

Simple answer,

They did. Thats why many Vietnamese hate China.

[Arceus]

They did. Thats why many Vietnamese hate China.

No, they don't, Chinese and vietnamese are like brothers, or at least something similar on the other hand, vietnamese hates taiwanese

Vietnam won did it not?

a mystery , both say they won,

[hellheaven1987]

No, they don't, Chinese and vietnamese are like brothers, or at least something similar on the other hand, vietnamese hates taiwanese

What the...

[Hookah Smoking Caterpiller]

Vietnam won did it not?

[hellheaven1987]

why china never expanded their border to vietnam, burma, laos, thailand, malaysian, and all in south border of china.. i only hear about invasion to west, east and north..

Mmm... I guess I need to answer one by one.

Vietnam - Vietnamese have been the enemy of Chinese for centuries. I remember the first time Chinese invaded Vietnam was during Tan or Song Dynastry, and Chinese actually successed controlling North Vietnam for quite a long time. Later there is Mongol Invasion, which divides into three times. Qing Dynastry also had conflict with Vietnam, and the best example is Haw Wars and Sino-French War (the herotic performance of French Foreign Legion againsted Black Flag - an elite unit of Qing Dynastry). Of course, Chinese lost this war and Vietnam became French colony.

I guess the modern history of Vietnam is familiar by everyone here, so I would not mention it again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haw_wars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-French_War

And of course, my favour "last stand", the Siege of Tuyen Quang.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tuyen_Quang

Burma - There is no direct evidence support that ancient Chinese invaded Burma before. However according to some ancient texts, it is possible that Kingdom of Shu (Three Kingdom period) did push into North Burma during their Conquer of Nanzhong (today's Yunnan province. However it might include some areas in North Burma). The modern time that Chinese "invaded" Burma was during WWII, the Burma campaign. The following link would explain more clear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma_C...ront_1943.2F44

Read the "Northern Front" section.

By the way, General Stilwel is probably the most bad mouth American general in WWII. (He even called Roosevelt "rubber legs") His skill is nearly equal Putton.

The next phase of "Chinese Invasion" was during the Chinese Civil War. Some branchs of Yunnan garrison of Republic of China successed retreating to North Burma after Nationalist lost the war in mainland (Chiang fleed to Taiwan), and they continued several guerilla war againsted both Burma and Communist China government. Unfortunately, Chiang's government asked them to retreat back to Taiwan; but some units refused to do that. Today, their descents and several rebel tribes continued their fighting againsting Burma government in North Burma (I was shock when I read this article seven years ago, and even more irony it was written by an American who fought besides them!!).

Laos - Quite similar as Vietnam.

Thailand, Malaya (Malaysia only formed after 1963) - Well, since Chinese Army could not even cross Vietnam, they could not reach other parts of South-East Asia for sure. However, if you count Zheng He's exploration during Ming Dynasty is a form of military operation, then yes, we did do some military campaign during the expedition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He#Voyages

That is probably all. I would try to find some articles in future.

[hellheaven1987]

By the way, the province of Fujian and Guangdong was conquered by Hans during Han Dynasty.

[Juggernaut]

why china never expanded their border to vietnam, burma, laos, thailand, malaysian, and all in south border of china.. i only hear about invasion to west, east and north..

They tried Vietnam, and failed.

[Arceus]

They tried Vietnam, and failed.

more like they success, then got kick out, then came back, and success, then failed,
during the han dynasty, vietnam was under china's rule for two centuries, or something,
today, china and vietnam's culture aren't much different,

[hellheaven1987]

during the han dynasty, vietnam was under china's rule for two centuries, or something,

Not true. Han Dynasty only managed to conquer up to today's southern China coast, and could not push into Vietnam today. Yes, the later Dynasty did push into Vietnam, but it was only North Vietnam (around Red Valley), and never pushed into South (there were several times actually, but rather pushed back or the local population rebelled).

You should really read my post first.

[Arceus]

Not true. Han Dynasty only managed to conquer up to today's southern China coast, and could not push into Vietnam today. Yes, the later Dynasty did push into Vietnam, but it was only North Vietnam (around Red Valley), and never pushed into South (there were several times actually, but rather pushed back or the local population rebelled).

You should really read my post first.

i did,china did conquered vietnam, in the past, vietnam only compose of north vietnam only, south was inhabit by people who weren't vietnamese, only later did the vietnam expand into what is now south vietnam
. thats why today the majority of vietnam's population is Kinh, which are people who were descent from southern china and north vietnam

[Siblesz]

China was never interested in Southern Asia mostly because the culture differed too greatly, the locals were too roudy and were ferocious warriors, and the natural resources were not that attractive in the first place. Remember that China thought itself as the center of the world, and the center of civilization.

To the West the Chinese had the Tibetans and the Turkic kingdoms of Xinjiang, who they came to dominate mostly for control of the trade route across the Silk Road. To the north, and north-west, they faced the Mongols and Hunnic tribes, which they regarded as primitive Barbarians. To the East, they faced the Japanese, who they regarded as poor islanders, and the Koreans, who they regarded as subverts to the emperor. And to the South, they faced the Buddhist kingdoms of South Asia, who they regarded as a sort of mythical land of terrible monsters and demonic beings. So China, the Middle Kingdom, usually remained satisfied within its borders, and never really attempted to expand farther than Xinjiang and Tibet.

Remember that a country that fought several centuries to achieve unification will stay stratisfied once it achieves it. Think of the Roman Empire. Why didn't Rome seek to conquer all of the Parthian Empire when it was at its peak during Hadrian's rule? Because the Roman Empire was suffering more from internal instability than from external threats, so they focussed more on internal problems, and a lot less on external. Once an empire achieves its height, it regards all territories outside its orbit as inferior and primitive, which isolate the empire and turn its external problems into internal problems. They no longer try to occupy foreign populations, they just try to repel them. The same happened to China after the Han dynasty. This is why China's advances after the Han dynasty were repetitions of the past, but never real and prolonged expansions and occupations of distant lands.

[crazyorc]

Chinese are always peaceful...haha

[Icefrisco]

No, they don't, Chinese and vietnamese are like brothers, or at least something similar on the other hand, vietnamese hates taiwanese

So then why did a large amount of Vietnamese continuosly bad-mouth the Chinese to my cousins? Did they do it for fun? Doubtful, the Vietnamese people went out of their way to tell them about China's constant incursions into the country.

[Arceus]

So then why did a large amount of Vietnamese continuosly bad-mouth the Chinese to my cousins? Did they do it for fun? Doubtful, the Vietnamese people went out of their way to tell them about China's constant incursions into the country.

prove it, vietnam as a whole don't hate chinese nor love them, most chinese who live in vietnam, speak vietnamese, i think you're mistaken mainland chinese with taiwanese,

[hellheaven1987]

prove it, vietnam as a whole don't hate chinese nor love them, most chinese who live in vietnam, speak vietnamese, i think you're mistaken mainland chinese with taiwanese,

And why Vietnamese hate Taiwanese?

By the way, Vietnamese "dislike" (never "hate") Chinese in general.

[Arceus]

And why Vietnamese hate Taiwanese?

By the way, Vietnamese "dislike" (never "hate") Chinese in general.

no, they don't, vietnamese do not "dislike" chinese,
vietnamese aboard, Yes
but in vietnam, most don't
are you vietnamese? or know someone vietnamese? cause if you are or do, you would know why vietnamese hate taiwanese, both in vietnam and aboard

p/s im part vietnamese, chinese, and korean, or at least thats what my father say:hmmm: