Strategy for Unified Rome

[The Bogeyman]

Hi,
what is your strategy?
I am especially interested in your way of dealing with Phyrrus.
Cheers
Bogeyman

[CelphTitled]

you need to use 2stack to kill him, lol
i dont think u can do it w/ one, i tried
but his units r way too strong cuz the major experience bonus they have.
+ phyrrus seems to a major command bonus when atking as well.
so, just bring quintus's army and flavius to cannae asap. phyruss will follow and goto cannae. go rape him w/ 2 stacks in cannae. with one full stack to sandwich his ass.
oh dont forget to pound him from the back w/ javelins b4 u finish his annoying ass off.

[The Bogeyman]

Hi,
you´re right, you cannot beat his army withyour southern Full Stack alone, but to sacrifice both full packs to beat him is too costly, you need one of the packs to guard your northern border.
I followed this strategy on H/H.
First I moved the "Rome"-Stack to conquer Segesta (Senate mission). I sent my diplomat to Cannae (he will negotiate with Phyrrus there). The "Southern"-Pack moves straight down in the direction of Croton as far as you can go in one turn. Phyrrus never did follow this army. His way led north to Cannae. I built Hastati in Rome, Capua, Asculum and Arretium. Then I took all three Hastati out of Rome, Capua and Arretium (each) and sent them to Asculum. Once united with the three Asculum Hastati, these twelve Units will move to conquer Ariminum (by the time they arrive at the gates of Ariminum you probably have another General to lead them in battle. Eventually I built roads in every city.
In the second turn I left the southern army unmoved. The northern Army continues it´s way to segesta and tho Hastati continue their way to Asculum.
On the third turn I moved the "Southern"-Army to Tarentum and besieged the city. In the north nothing new.
After the third turn the greeks moved to break the siege of Tarentum and I destroyed their troops thus conquering Tarentum and enslaving the population.
Meanwhile Phyrrus and my diplomat continued their way to Cannae where they met I think on the fourth turn. Phyrrus accepted a ceasfire.
That´s very much it, a couple of rounds later he was gone from the Italian Peninsula, maybe to fight Macedonia or Carthage, I don´t know.
Problem with this stategy is that after acouple of rounds you will be highly in dept. I had to overcom a decifit of 30.000, but lost no battle and was able to keep most of my troops.
I will keep you informed about the campaign.
Cheers
The Bogeyman

[DARTH VADER]

I remember this difficult campaign...I also have used both 2 armies to kill or at least do a lot of damage to Pyrrhus....he did won actually historically but with Phyrric victory don't they say? After that, I had quickly raised new armies because the 2 costly armies were wiped out and had surplus. Pyrrhus moved to establish himself in Greece and never returned. I secured The south borders and begun my campaign over the Gauls....sweet memories of my good lovely mod for RTW...

[Takhlahr]

Hello,

first a thanks to Darth for this great mod. I downloaded it some days ago and this is the best mod I've ever played. Thanks!

I needed several tries so far to get a good start with the romans in this mod. But yesterday I finally developed a good strategy at h/h.
First, forget about those rebel towns in the north. There are th best buffer between you and the gauls. The gauls tried to capture them but lost 2 armies so far, big stack armies. So let the rebels be there, but not long.
In my cities I queued up some buildings: trader, temple, and paved roads. Do not build more armies. Move some garrsison from towns with govoners to other towns to be able to have very high taxes in every city.

Then I moved my army near rome to my other army in the south near pyrrus and captured with it the rebel town in the north of your southern army. Exterminate the population! The south army moved a bit in the north and hided from Pyrrus. Once bith armies were together I moved them straight south and Pyruss attacked immediately.

At the battlefield I decided to move my first army to the trees and hided them there. This is very important because this way the cretan archer can't inflict much damage. I tried to flank with my equites and wanted to trap pyrrus itself but I never succeded. They had way too many spearman and cav at the flanks and also the elephants were near pyrrus.

I got the message that my reinforcements will come later and this was a very good thing. My goal was to hold the line, try to flank some phalanxes and inflict as much damage as possible but still to hold the line as long as possible. The AI did very good and pinned my armies with their phalanxes and I was unable to to some flanking because I needed all my troops to hold the line. The cretan archers were unable to do anything, because I was still in the trees so they decided to fight hand to hand. I routed one of them but had heavy loses so far, I guess the half of every stack was dead.

Then Pyrrus decided to make an massive attack to the middle of my front line and charged with 1 cav and his bodyguards there. Uhm, this was very close. If he would have been able to break through there then everything would have been lost. Luckily I had 2 triiari left behind the front line and supported the middle. Pyrrus died!

But things were going more and more worse. But then my reinforcement arrived and I saw that a charge from the elephants will be happen soon. I decided to retreat , splitted up my troops in 2 armies and many routed while doing this ( I was down to 1/4 in almost every stack at this point).

One half of my army moved to the east and moved right to my reinforcement. The other half including my general - who didn't even killed one enemy so far - moved to the west to another wood. As I wanted to enemy also splitted their forces and all of the spearman and the elephants were following my general. I needed to manually routed some of my most tired troops before they got catched from the elephants.

Oddly enough I was not able to get control about the reinforcement even I'm sure that I've checked the box at the start of the battle at the campaign map. Nevermind, they did a great job.
My first half - who were moving to my reinforcement - got catched by some cav and the cretan archers did a good job there and so they all routed. But the enemy was splitted and both parts were faaaaar away from each other.

The second half reached the wood but the elephants were very close and so I decided to attack them before they could charge and luckily I had some velites left with some ammo. I killed 6 or 7 elephants and I needed to manually route my last troops before the elephants killed them all.

Now I had only my general and one stack of equites left, which only had 23 horses left. My general moved to the reinforcement and the equites hided in the wood.

My reinforcements killed 2 phalanxes so far but also lost their general, my faction leader, but it was a very good deal. I killed pyrrus, one cretan achers, one spearman, decimated the elephants and splitted theit forces. Yes, a very good deal.

The rest of teh battle was kinda easy and I was very passive. The reinforcements had a very high troop advantage and routed all of their phalanxes. My equites came out of the wood and followed one by one to kill'em , so did my general.

Then the second half of the enemies troops finally arrived at my reinforcement and got beated easily.

After this battle I needed to merge both armies and had one full army left.

After this I captured the greek town in italy, exterminated the population there and captured 2 more rebel towns in the south, while slaving the population there. Meanwhile I had positive income and was able to retrain my army and go on building streets and trade buildings in the newly captured cities and more advanced trade buildings in the other cities.

I'm making money right now and try to went to sicilia.

This campaign makes really fun and it is not easy. I like the challenge, thanks Darth!

[The Bogeyman]

Yes, challenging campaign, great fun. After I united Italy, I was attacked my the macedonians. They had built up an empirre in Greece, the balcans and Pannonia. They attacked Patavium several times, but when i felt strong enough, i led a counterattack with a young general, Julius Julianus who later became Julius the Mighty. I´ll go into detail with that in a later post, don´t have the time now.
See you
Bogeyman

[gonzo]

my strategy on h/h was with the first army. move the north on a hill.

Now i got the high ground when they he attacks me. All i do it try to take out as many troops as i can and do my best to take out thier general. Taking thier general out is key but u will still lose the battle.

My 2nd full stack army i do the same thing position myself on a hill get attacked and wipe his army out. I also take segesta for the 5000denari by nearly emptying my cities in the north and making like 2more hastasti.

And the cities in the south i do the same thing leave like 1 unit in the city and send the rest to help take tarentum and take out the greek army..


I tried this battle on vh/vh. and man i cant figure out how to beat him. But h/h i can

[Cybugger]

After you have dealt with Phyrrus anyway possible (diplomacy, militarily), and have unified italy, i strongly suggest either a move to Sicily (which i did) or possibly a move to Greece (monies!). At the moment in my campaign, i own southern Greece, Sicily, Italy, Corsica and Sardinia, and certain Gallic territories, however, i'm struggling at the moment, i'm being squeezed by full stacks of Gallic barbarians, Germans and Macedonians. Luckily, with the territories i own, the money keeps flowing, so that the blood can continue to flow!