something still amiss in the 60's BC

[FMvonKleist]

Hello,

I have run a campaign on version 1.9, with addons to 63 BC. It will not go beyond it. Once again, I fear I will never get to play a complete game of this mod. The first warning crashes occur at 67 BC. Then it goes on, and by 63 BC it will go no further. I don't understand this. I have played this on two computers and each time get this problem, albeit at least I got a few more turns in past the 66 - 67 crash. If interested, I will upload a file to file share, but please give me that address in reply.

FMvonKleist

[FMvonKleist]

Okay, I can get it to go to 61 BC, but only by rebooting the computer each turn after crash to desktop. Sometimes I can just do a battle or change something and it will go. Another thing I want to point out is this terrible crashing is foreshadowed by the portraits on the family tree "whiting out" when selecting a new faction heir. Could this be an issue involving the crash? Some conflict so subtle it is almost unnoticeable?

[Brusilov]

There is a 'late campaign bug' which existed in RTR 6 Gold which caused CTDs around 67BC. I thought that had been fixed for RTR PE!

Anyway, the standard way around that was to use the Utility RomeSage.

I suggest you read the following post before trying to use it (apparently it works fine for RTW 1.2 games but maybe not for RTW 1.5 games).

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...light=romesage

The following is the link to RomeSage;

Dwonloads page
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?mod=448

RomeSage;
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...do=file&id=448

[Darth Stalin]

Well, I used RomeSage on RTW 1.5/BI 1.6 with Ancient Empires mod (based on RTRPE 1.6) to change battles difficulty from VH to H (well, on VH the AI gets too much strange improvements in defence and morale) - and it worked OK, no CTDs and anythung like this.

[Marcus Camillus]

Hello,

I have run a campaign on version 1.9, with addons to 63 BC. It will not go beyond it. Once again, I fear I will never get to play a complete game of this mod. The first warning crashes occur at 67 BC. Then it goes on, and by 63 BC it will go no further. I don't understand this. I have played this on two computers and each time get this problem, albeit at least I got a few more turns in past the 66 - 67 crash. If interested, I will upload a file to file share, but please give me that address in reply.

FMvonKleist

Its starting to look like removing the Senate and other Roman factions was not necessarily a good thing. That, or something is still in the files that needs to be changed.

Several mods do not start as early as 280BC like RTRPE, and end after fewer turns too. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to change the end date to 70BC for RTRPE. By then most people have already conquered more than enough regions/provinces to have "won" a campaign.

From 70BC onward, to more accurately reflect that period of Roman history and that of other factions too, it would be better to play a mod geared toward reflecting the period of Roman civil wars, such as the excellent 77BC mod, or the older TFT Mod.

At the moment, I'll be continuing to see if I can find a solution, but an interim one may be to change the end date for the campaign.

[FMvonKleist]

Well Marcus, you have made a wonderful game and I really hope that changing the end date is not a solution. It is very enjoyable to play and I sincerely hope that a solution is found. I report theses things so hopefully you can find it. I want to be a help, not a bother reporting the issue.

FMvonKleist

[spqr_arcani]

I'm curious as to whether anyone ever made it beyond 60's BC
and into the AD times?

My last campaign in PE 1.8 became crash-guaranteed around 46 BC.

I'm still at 175 BC with my current 1.9 campaign and totally enjoying it. I'm hoping it won't be like last time where I had to abandon it.

I used to think that this was revolt-related, but now after reading
VMvonKleist's it sounds like a chronology-induced problem. Could it be a family-tree capacity problem with savefiles? Or an upper limit for filesize structures? Those family trees could get awfully crowded. I'm totally guessing out loud here.

[Marcus Camillus]

I used to think that this was revolt-related, but now after reading
VMvonKleist's it sounds like a chronology-induced problem. Could it be a family-tree capacity problem with savefiles? Or an upper limit for filesize structures? Those family trees could get awfully crowded. I'm totally guessing out loud here.

Hopefully its not due to those reasons. They would mean its a problem within the game engine itself, and would require a Creative Assembly fix. If it is, then changing the end date would be the only solution I know of that a modder could try.

[Gaul]

I started it in 350 BC and give it a rediculous end date such as 480 AD. The events fire after turns it seems, not the year, even though I'm sure you know that.

Now I wonder, if adding some very late end date would do some good...

I'll let you all know and see, even though I am not very found of trench warfare, though never experienced it..

[spqr_arcani]

I keep on reading stuff about map.rwm, but not totally sure what
needs a new one and what doesn't.

Hopefully Gaul can test out his findings and let us know. I can definitely be more aggressive in my campaigns and have it finish earlier but I don't like to be rushed because of a game crash problem.

Hopefully its not due to those reasons. They would mean its a problem within the game engine itself, and would require a Creative Assembly fix. If it is, then changing the end date would be the only solution I know of that a modder could try.

[FMvonKleist]

Perhaps assigning one of the existing factions in RTR PE as a roman faction in sheep's clothing is the answer.

[AngryTitusPullo]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107809

See the thread. It seems that deleting map.rwm settles the problem for him.

[chanks1]

It is possible to get pass 66bc. But you have to try eveything, declare war, move diplomat, cheat by using process_cq cheat to help your enemies etc. by such I actually manged to finish a campain. The check and thus the ctds seem to stop around 29 - 21 bc. so get to there and the game resumes. But its very fustrating and not worth it unless you like torture.

[Gaul]

Thank you marcus. You mean the brutii and scipii AI is of no use for at least SOME factions?? Add some more than! I know this is total realism, but no need quite yet for PERFECT realism. Maybe shuffling around some factions could give say, Illyria brutii and perhaps your proposed Indian faction scippii. Good thought though. Another good thought is the <eventual> R2 TW!!!

[chanks1]

Is there not a limit to unit slots? othewise an india faction is a good idea? another possible sugrestion is to use the four roman slot for say gaul, (4 tribes) or the greek cities so you can have syracuse, athens, rhodes and sparta as independent cities. niether impinges on accuracy but would make either the gauls or greeks different to play, should also mean no more units be put in.

[magpie]

Hi members,Has anyone come up with a good way of fixing the 60,s BC crash problem yet.regards magpie.

[svramj]

Is there not a limit to unit slots? othewise an india faction is a good idea? another possible sugrestion is to use the four roman slot for say gaul, (4 tribes) or the greek cities so you can have syracuse, athens, rhodes and sparta as independent cities. niether impinges on accuracy but would make either the gauls or greeks different to play, should also mean no more units be put in.

I've created a mod using the brutii as mauriyan empire......the thing is i get the CTD around 64 bc.......what if we incorporate 4 turns per year and end the game at 68 bc.....is it possible ????? plz tell me how to incorporate 4 turns per year ???

[Companion Cavalry]

Played macedon campaign, conquered 180 cities and got to 47 a.d before I gave

up, the culture penalty,distance to capital, and pestilence made public order

virtually uncontrollable by then

p.s having no problems with the 66 b.c thing

[florin80]

This seems to confirm the theory that it only happens when the player uses the roman faction for the campaign. Anyway, thank you very much for the report! It`s nice to see such success stories exist. Btw, how many battles would you say you`ve played on the battle map instead of auto resolving? A few/couple or a lot(meaning more then 20)?

[SoleBastard]

Btw, how many battles would you say you`ve played on the battle map instead of auto resolving? A few/couple or a lot(meaning more then 20)?

What? Fighting more than 20 battles yourself is considered a lot? I almost always fight my battles, its the only way to win without considerable losses so you can continue campaigning with the same army. I always wondered how you guys actually got to 60 BC because I rarely hit the 2nd century before becoming the dominant force.
Takes a lot of 'real life' time though, I guess playing Civilization for more than a decade made me quite the micromanagement type!