spqr 2 total war!!!!!

**jmack-** · June 20, 2007, 10:15 PM

i was thinking because spqr owned so much , is there gona be one for medival? because that would be the best

**lt1956** · June 21, 2007, 01:58 AM

If there is it wont be for Rome. it would stay with the theme, the major drawback that stopped me from buying it are 2 things.

1. 150 man unit limit. hardcoded
2. Lack tools for modding like animations and models I believe. This cuts to the heart of mods Sounds like CA struck back at us for complaining on RTW.

**Teodosio** · June 21, 2007, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by lt1956

If there is it wont be for Rome. it would stay with the theme, the major drawback that stopped me from buying it are 2 things.

Bad luck for us! It could have been interesting to lead legions with the new graphics engine and new AI!

Originally Posted by lt1956

2. Lack tools for modding like animations and models I believe. This cuts to the heart of mods Sounds like CA struck back at us for complaining on RTW.

Are you saying that it is more difficult to make a mod for M2TW?
Maybe it is just that CA discovered that this mod thing is backfiring. Mods enhance the game's value, by adding more variety, more replayability, ecc..., but they make more difficult to develop other games!
When CA wants to do a new game, it HAS to introduce new features. They cannot simply change theme, a mod can already do that and be available for free.
So maybe now they are thinking of changing their strategy, and narrowing the scope of potential mods.

**Alatar** · June 21, 2007, 07:00 AM

Rember whatt CA said when they announced kingdoms? That they provide a place for mods to work from?
Well maybe kingoms will fix it?

I'm hoping.

**Garnier** · June 21, 2007, 07:08 AM

No, CA isn't against mods at all. They've helped modders a lot so far with M2TW. And also, modeling is possible now, just animations aren't yet. Though still I don't suggest that Lt start modding M2TW, as its still not a rival to SPQR and can't be at this point, what with the small battles (though the battles still are just as hard on the CPU, if not worse). I play 10,000 man battles in SPQR, while the biggest my CPU can handle on M2, is 3,000 men. So even if unit size was bigger, I couldn't use it.

**Teodosio** · June 21, 2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Garnier

No, CA isn't against mods at all. They've helped modders a lot so far with M2TW. And also, modeling is possible now, just animations aren't yet. Though still I don't suggest that Lt start modding M2TW, as its still not a rival to SPQR and can't be at this point, what with the small battles (though the battles still are just as hard on the CPU, if not worse). I play 10,000 man battles in SPQR, while the biggest my CPU can handle on M2, is 3,000 men. So even if unit size was bigger, I couldn't use it.

I concur. Our PCs are not yet ready for SPQR battles in M2TW. But maybe in the future...

Btw, it's relieving what you say about CA helping modders... if the things improve, one day we could have a better and greater SPQR!
But for the moment I'm quite happy with what we already have

**Dominus Latronis of Troy** · June 21, 2007, 04:32 PM

i think LT should do a Late period BI version of SPQR - using 1.5 -

call it

SPQR II LT's Barbarian Invasion.

either way LT rocks

**ferres** · June 22, 2007, 01:54 AM

I saw screenshot somewhere of M2tw kingdoms with 300 men units. May not be in actual game release but that is something to consider.

**lt1956** · June 22, 2007, 03:54 AM

I was told by some MTW2 modders that they hardcoded the limit to 150men units. I thinks its in the Bug or wishlist for MTW2.

**jmack-** · June 22, 2007, 04:57 AM

lol i can only play with small unit sizes anyways^_^

**Garnier** · June 22, 2007, 05:57 AM

The picture with 300 man units is from the pre-release screenshots, from CA. They can change anything since they do the hardcode. They make huge units for their screenshots sometimes and then sell the game with 150 max.