Rise and Fall of the Gothic kingdoms:a minor mod for BI

[Paul d]

I want to try to make a mod focuzing on the AFTERMATH of the fall of the western empire. alot of war, betrayal, and dozens of assassinations took place during these years.

the mod will start in they year 489, 13 years after the the "fall of the roman empire", and the general consolidation of ostrogothic Italy
although, at the time no one considered that the roman Empire had actually "fallen". It clearly existed, and was the most powerful realm in europe.
Its capital was Constantinople, and its emperor was Zeno.(eastern portion)

the ending year will be 625, Under the Visigothic king, Suintila, the last of Constantinople's posessions in Spain fell in 625.The Imperial prescence in Spain following Justinian's re-conquest had thus lasted but three-quarters of a century.

team (so far)

paul d: mapper, coder, historian

Axeman: historian

Factions:and holdings

Ostrogoths:starting in control of all of italy.

Visigoths: starting in control of most of Spain, and the southwestern 1/3 of France

Eastern rome: much the same compared to vanilla

Lombards: central eastern germany

Gepids: south eastern germany

Soissons(Frenks): northern portion of france, with a few holdings in germany.

Burgundians: southwestern france, and some holdings in switzerland.

Vandals: carthage and around, as well as many mediterranean isles.

Saxons: eastern england, and northern germany; maybe the lands of the Salian Franks as well.

Celts: northern England, as well as Ireland

Avars: russia, and east of it

Slavs: ukraine, baltic, eastern germany

Alemanni: very small holdings in switzerland and southern germany.

romano-british: western england, thanks to new regions





Religion changes: split christian into to sects; Arianism and Catholicism.

Arian factions:

Ostrogoths
Visigoths
Lombards
Gepids/Burgundiand
Vandals

Catholic factions:
eastern Empire
Soissons
Romano-British
Celts

Pagans:
Saxons
Avars


so far, we have done the following:

added 22 regions

moved some factions starting positions.

changed religion values worldwide.

the map:





what i currently need:

someone with accurate knowledge on how to add religions.

[monkeyman]

sounds like an incredible idea and i wish the best for your mod and hope it takes off

sorry i can't help

[Paul d]

its gonna be relly minor, not changing alot.

ALSO! the ending date is freakishly close to the start, a meagre 80 years.

The endng date has been changed to 625. this year is significant because it marks the year that the Eastern empire lost its last holdings in Spain to the Visigothic kingdom, and the begining of the eastern empire's decay.

[Paul d]

Revived.

we are in serious need of a historian. we know little of the names of Basque/Sueve towns, and some other things that we are ignorant in. pm me if you think you're qualified for the job.

[Paul d]

updated

[gll25]

You should ad the Sassanid Empire

[Paul d]

probably will leave them in, because without pressure from the east, the byzantines will be too powerful.

[Axeman]

I can be your historian, I can also change what regions you should change a bit (nothing major, just going to show them in paint for actual historic borders)

[Paul d]

yeah, that'd be good, I just guessed most of them.

I'll have to send you a better version of the map, that one is in a wierd format.

[Axeman]

Ive finished showing the areas held by the respective factions in the year 489, I think thats a better start year, You also forgot about the huns who settled in Hungary, here is the map.

Btw, I made some faction changes, nothing major, mostly names

1-Added Huns
2-Astelli= Eastern Slavs
3-Veletil= Western Slavs
4- Re-Added Berbers, they where still a powerful force at the time, and would infact conquer all vandal lands in north africa except those immediatley around carthage, they also began to draw more manpower from south of the Saharra
5- Added the Magyar Horde
6-Changed some faction positions

Hope you have enough room for them all.



EDIT_also I cropped the map to show my suggested borders, but its ok if you dont use them all, also all the rebels in russia and on the stepes should be VERY strong.

[Paul d]

thanks. although i dont want all of the romano british britannia united, since they were usually not, so the romano british will be mainly gwent and dyfed. (southwestern.) while the rest is rebels.

also, that post up top needs to be updated.

I think there will be 1 slav faction, the western slavs, and the eastern will be particularly strong rebels (a few towns with very large garrisons.)

I'll have to learn how to mod factions, then we will see about the rest.

[Axeman]

Ok, can you send me a map of the current provinces in a better format so I can tweak them a bit??

EDIT_and I suggest having the Eastern Slavs (Aestill) instead of the Western Slavs, that way you can give some breathing room in Germany, and can encourage conflict with the Avars instead.

[Paul d]

point taken.

"Ok, can you send me a map of the current provinces in a better format so I can tweak them a bit??"
pm me your email adress so i can send the file(s)

also, do you know any names of any important basque/sueve cities?


I also need to add more regions to germany and france, but I really don't know enough about it to add anything accurate.

[Axeman]

France is good, only needs a handful, yes we need more in spain and germany though, and there, at that time, where not alot of cities in Germania to speak of, so we would likely add alot of villages like "Tribus Frisi" and such...

[Paul d]

ok. I tried adding Arianism, but i guess i did it wrong, as whatever character has the conversion trait for it automatically causes a ctd when i right click his character card.- so will probably un-implement sadly... unless i can fix...



also; along with spain and germany, we ought to add some regions to eastern europe, its pretty bare ATM especially around hungary

[Axeman]

Not too many thought, we don't need alot of dead space and the Avars to just horde all of Russia...