Syria wants some too?

[NaptownKnight]

It seems the Syrians are searching for a serious *** whooping from the Israelis. It's been reported they are preparing for war with Israel. Implications of this?

[Chaigidel]

an all out **** storm that ends badly :O

it will be hard for israel if it gets hit by syria while america is so tangled up with iran.iraq.afghanistan; I still think they can win, but it will be tough

otherwise I doubt that syria would make a move considering the jews are still the only ones in the mideast with nukes and the willingness to use them.

[The Super Pope]

In conventional warfare Israel is the greatest power in the middle east. A nuclear Iran coud change that

[William the Bastard]

I doubt Syria would fall for the same tactics of the Six-Day War either. I wonder whether the Israelis have a new plan as remarkable as that one?

Well Iran will be undergoing a regime change soon, after the U.S. conquers it.

Not that I am against a war with Iran or wish to even turn the topic too much onto that topic but I do wonder whether the US has go the steam left to tackle another front in that direction? I am not doubting their money, resources or numbers of men only the US publics ability to handle a another war? Or even the morale of the soldiers who are already upto their necks covering the gaps in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[NaptownKnight]

Well Iran will be undergoing a regime change soon, after the U.S. conquers it.

[Hansa]

Well Iran will be undergoing a regime change soon, after the U.S. conquers it.

Are you serious, conquer implies invading and holding that country, there is no way in h**** the US can do that with the current situation in Iraq, Iran is ten times stronger than Iraq ever was has 3 times the population and a way more difficult terrain. What have you been smoking?

As for an air campaign against Iran (which is NOT conquest) leading to a massive popular uprising overthrowing the government, priesthood etc, in Iran: That idea is so stupid that one should believe that it came from the same people who predicted that the USA would have a ''cakewalk'' in Iraq, that it would nearly instantly turn into a flowering democracy, that tons of WMDs capable/nearly capable of massive launches against the states in the region would be found, that stability would come nearly instantly and that the whole thing (war, reconstruction etc)would cost the American taxpayer a maximum of 8 billion USD (and that was the worst case scenario). Of course it can't have been the people who made these predictions, I mean they have shown their complete lack of getting anything right in the last 5 years, so who would believe these idiots...oh wait

And as for Syria gearing up for a war with Israel, sources please. Nevertheless, I doubt the Syrians are dumb enough to gear up for an agrressive conventional war with the Israelis. They know all to well that they will probably be smashed. If they are indeed gearing up it is probably to defend themselves against a possible Israeli attack*, or gearing up for a proxy war against Israel through affiliates in Lebanon. I sincerely hope it is the first option of the two as the Lebanese have had quite enough of Syria, Iran, Israel and the Palestinians utterly F..ing up their once prosperous democratic state.

*have no idea of whether or not the Israelis plan an attack on Syria

[Chaigidel]

I wouldnt put it past the israeli to hit iran first but again this would start a huge **** storm we may never find a way out of.


USA cant touch Iran at the moment, especially with the russians and chinese having so many multibillion dollar investments there

[Kiljan Arslan]

I wouldnt put it past the israeli to hit iran first but again this would start a huge **** storm we may never find a way out of.


USA cant touch Iran at the moment, especially with the russians and chinese having so many multibillion dollar investments there

Start a huge **** storm?! HA! Yes Jordan, the Sauds, Lebanon, UAE, Yemen might say publicly that they would condemn isreal but they would privatly be patting it on the back, the hate iran.

[Chaigidel]

the most dangerous part of any conventional war with the usa or its allies is simple, Air Power

american air power can reach anywhere even though we have almost all of our military tied up in iraq we can still send missles and bombs and planes in any direction, launch guided cruisemissles from subs and carriers-- this costs huge amounts of money and is almost ineffective against guerilla tactics--- but against a conventional military american airpower is a huge deterrent for any kind of open warfare.

its more likely syria will continue to mesh with hezbollah (perhaps) and operate the same way iran does in iraq now--- carry out a long term campaign of terrorism never officially declaring war.--- it would be foolish for any country to meet the USA or its allies in open combat, and they wont.

[William the Bastard]

the most dangerous part of any conventional war with the usa or its allies is simple, Air Power

I do agree with your statement. US air power has been partly the reason the fatalities hasn't risen as high as they could in any war the US has fought since the invention of the airplane. To win a war of this kind though (IMHO) you still need boots on the ground. Knocking out Iran's capabilities is only going to aggravate them into hating the US even more (perhaps becoming more of a terrorist training ground) and they will just rebuild anyway.

[The Super Pope]

Air power can be beaten as Egypt showed in the Yom Kippur war

[jankren]

Air power can be beaten as Egypt showed in the Yom Kippur war

True, adequate anti-air batteries and patience could tame Israel's superior airforce. But still Syria won't be able to take on Israel by itself. And if Iran decides to help directly and join the fray, Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia might decide to aid Israel due to fear of Iran's influence in the region and pressure from their master USA.

Peace,

[Chaigidel]

it showed it could beat israeli air power.


I totally agree that no war will be won on air power alone, but it is still this sheer destructive capability which keeps large scale conventional war from occuring now. that is why the tactic is one that focuses entirely on guerilla war and plays to the weakness of a huge war machine like the USA--- thats why the Iraqi and afghani wars are going against us because we cannot rely on our destructive power alone :O.

[NaptownKnight]

Yugoslavia showed that a war can not be won with just air power. While our Air Force is the most powerful millitary entity in the world, you still need troops on the ground to keep control and clean up the mess.

[invictus]

Eh i say let them fight it themselves. Why should we get involved? i thought however, that isreal was preparing for war already? Perhaps syria is just preparing to defend itself? -Leon

[jankren]

Eh i say let them fight it themselves. Why should we get involved? i thought however, that isreal was preparing for war already? Perhaps syria is just preparing to defend itself? -Leon

Well, I think Israel has always been prepared for war in the last 60 years for both security reason considering its situation in the middle of not so friendly countries and the chance to achieve the dream of Eretz Yisrael at the slightest opportunity.

[invictus]

Cant they just go to maddagascar like the germans wanted to send the in ww2? -Leon
P.S.
I do believe they have the right to fight for their country. They should just pacify the whole region to end all these wars.

[Matty_P]

Well Iran will be undergoing a regime change soon, after the U.S. conquers it.

You mean, rule by civil war??

Seriously, I hope they put the Shah's son in charge! He could be a figure to rally Iran, if he can ever get them to get behind him in the first place!

Not to mention I like the feeling of deja-vu. Rulers in exile are so cool, we should totally bring that back!

(sarcasm...minus the rule by civil war statement.)

[NaptownKnight]

Cant they just go to maddagascar like the germans wanted to send the in ww2? -Leon
P.S.
I do believe they have the right to fight for their country. They should just pacify the whole region to end all these wars.

Wow describes the thoughts going through my head after reading this post. What kind of logic is there behind this statement, afterall if anyone should be deported out of Israel it should be the Palestinians seeing as how it isn't their homeland.

[Matty_P]

if anyone should be deported out of Israel it should be the Palestinians seeing as how it isn't their homeland.

Based on contemporary context or what? Israel was Palestine before Israel came to exist as we know it today. The ancient state of Israel was lost to history.

What do you base you're point on, seriously?

There is no precedent for the creation of the 'modern Israel'. The Israeli state doesn't make sense in any historical context. Their arguable historical claims to the Levant were very old and very insignificant when considering the presence of the Palestinians.

Now, I support Israel b/c it is recognized by the majority of the international community, but comments saying that Palestine has no right to the territory because it 'isn't their homeland' are totally baseless and absurd.