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    Default Help with game start up

    I downloaded the stand alone 3.2 version of SS, and when I start it up, it gets as far as the first screen where it says stainless steel and the versions etc.

    I have 1.2, and 3.2 of this. Does it matter if I also have Sicilian Vespers installed? Sicilian Vespers does not effect the vanilla game so I dont think it would.

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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    Quote Originally Posted by awisler View Post
    I downloaded the stand alone 3.2 version of SS, and when I start it up, it gets as far as the first screen where it says stainless steel and the versions etc.

    I have 1.2, and 3.2 of this. Does it matter if I also have Sicilian Vespers installed? Sicilian Vespers does not effect the vanilla game so I dont think it would.
    will you show us your system log.. last few section only not all

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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    Where do I find the system log, I have looked through everything I think and dont see it.

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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    See post #10 in the SS FAQ thread. If Sicilian Vespers installed those two files then that's your problem. I had the same issue because CAE had installed them.
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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    I checked every file and I can not find a system folder.

    edit - sorry i accidentally skipped over your post. I tried that and it still just closes. It does not give me an error message or anything though, just minimizes and disappears.

    FOUND IT -

    21:08:29.687 [system.rpt] [always] CPU: SSE2
    21:08:29.687 [system.rpt] [always] ==== system log start, build date: Oct 5 2006 version bld-medieval2-final-52 (29455) ===
    21:08:29.687 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_0.pack
    21:08:29.687 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_1.pack
    21:08:29.687 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_2.pack
    21:08:29.703 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_3.pack
    21:08:29.703 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/data_4.pack
    21:08:29.703 [system.io] [always] mounted pack packs/localized.pack
    21:08:29.703 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/menu_english.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:29.703 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/menu_english.txt is missing
    21:08:29.703 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/diplomacy.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:29.703 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/diplomacy.txt is missing
    21:08:29.718 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/diplomacy_speech.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:29.718 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/diplomacy_speech.txt is missing
    21:08:29.718 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/missions.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:29.718 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/missions.txt is missing
    21:08:29.718 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/shortcut.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:29.734 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/shortcut.txt is missing
    21:08:32.484 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for ANISELECT
    21:08:32.484 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_SABOTAGE
    21:08:32.500 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_TRADE
    21:08:32.531 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for DRAGGABLE
    21:08:32.531 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for DRAGGING
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_MULTIPLE_SELECT
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_ATTACK
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_CHARACTER
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_RESOURCE
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_FORT
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_MOVE_OBJECT
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_WATCHTOWER
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_DEPLOYMENT_AREA
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_TILE
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_SPECIAL_PIECE
    21:08:32.546 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PAINT
    21:08:32.562 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_ADJUST_HEIGHTS
    21:08:32.562 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_ADD_UNIT
    21:08:32.562 [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_PLACE_SETTLEMENT
    21:08:33.312 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/religions.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:33.312 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/religions.txt is missing
    21:08:33.312 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/climates.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:33.312 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/climates.txt is missing
    21:08:33.359 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/event_titles.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:33.359 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/event_titles.txt is missing
    21:08:33.359 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/event_strings.txt.strings.bin is missing
    21:08:33.375 [system.io] [warning] open: Stainless_Steel/data/text/event_strings.txt is missing
    21:08:33.921 [script.err] [error] Script Error in Stainless_Steel/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 3065, column 24
    stat_pri statistic refers to non-existant projectile type 'cav_composite_arrow'
    21:08:33.921 [script.err] [error] Script Error in Stainless_Steel/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 3065, column 24
    failed to read statistic for unit type 'Kazaks'
    21:08:33.921 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : error reading record from file Stainless_Steel/data/export_descr_unit.txt.
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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    Quote Originally Posted by awisler View Post

    stat_pri statistic refers to non-existant projectile type 'cav_composite_arrow'
    21:08:33.921 [script.err] [error] Script Error in Stainless_Steel/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 3065, column 24
    failed to read statistic for unit type 'Kazaks'
    21:08:33.921 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : error reading record from file Stainless_Steel/data/export_descr_unit.txt.
    ahha here is the problem you edited the file i think and it's messed up in export_descr_unit.txt
    you have to reinstall the SS file specially the Stand Alone version
    if you didnt edit any file export_descr_unit.txt
    go to Medieval II Total War folder go to Data you may see export_descr_unit.txt, export_descr_buildings.txt
    delete that...
    (remember dont touch the the Data folder which is inside of SS folder)
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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    I think I did it correctly, I extracted the file to my m2tw directory but it never gave me an option to overwrite anything. I did use the new launcher and it did the same thing, launches it, minimizes and disappears. In the FAQ it said that the last 2 lines of my error log means my 1.2 patch isnt installed correctly, but my Sicilian Vespers 2.0 requires 1.2 and works just fine...?

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    I doubt it's an issue with your 1.2 install, given that SV 2.0 works. Still, that next-to-last line sure looks like you've got a corrupt edu. Have you tried opening it in a text editor and looking at line 3065?

    Sorry, but that's where I'd start...
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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    stat_pri 6, 0, cav_composite_arrow, 120, 25, missile, missile_mechanical, piercing, none, 25, 1

    that is line 3065 in that file. would anyone mind checking theirs and seeing if it matches?

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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    I'm not at home, but I'll check later (presuming nobody else does first).
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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    Thanks, but about all the other things that are missing and stuff, is that normal?

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    IIRC, those are "standard" M2TW errors and can be ignored. I'll check my latest log when I get home.
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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    borther sorry to say this you have to reinstall the Patch 1.2 because in Faq thread KK specified the same problem (please read faq)
    Patch not installed correctly
    - If you have a crash and the last 2 lines of the system.log reads like this (or sth. similar with "arrows" or "kazaks"):
    "01:17:38.750 [script.err] [error] Script Error in Stainless_Steel/data/export_descr_unit.txt, at line 3065, column 24
    failed to read statistic for unit type 'Kazaks'
    01:17:38.750 [data.invalid] [error] DATABASE_TABLE error found : error reading record from file Stainless_Steel/data/export_descr_unit.txt.."
    then this does indicate that the patch 1.2 isn't correctly installed." KK
    http://twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99463
    btw not all the mods use the specified files from patch 1.2 but... SS does

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    EDIT - Got it working after retrying the 1.2 patch.

    Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it. Starting a campaign now.
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    Default Re: Help with game start up

    Good catch, Chola. I missed that one.

    I was just skimming some threads over at the org. Saw one that said if patch install takes less than 15 minutes, the install failed (without telling you).

    Edit: Darn it! I saw a post somewhere with excruciatingly detailed instructions on installing the 1.2 patch correctly (which I used to install it) and now I can't remember where...

    Edit 2: This isn't exactly the post I used to install the patch, but it includes all the same steps. Note that I had a second hard drive that was almost empty and so installed on a new drive rather than using a disk/registry cleaner on my C:\ drive.

    http://twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=104553

    Nevermind...glad you got it working!
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