General's Mood Swings

**First_creation** · June 13, 2007, 01:42 PM

Every other turn one of my family members either feels Appreciated: +1 Loyalty, and the next turn he feels unappreciated: -1 Loyalty.

Why does this happen? It's really starting to annoy me.

It usually happens when a General gets married?

**The Sundance Kid** · June 13, 2007, 01:45 PM

I can honestly say I've never experienced that. How odd. CA have managed to implement an almost real-life system without anyone at all noticing. lol. TBH, i don't know what's up with that; maybe whatever triggers those traits keeps coming and going each turn, perhaps he's only doing worthwile things every other turn

**J@mes** · June 13, 2007, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by First_creation

Every other turn one of my family members either feels Appreciated: +1 Loyalty, and the next turn he feels unappreciated: -1 Loyalty.

Why does this happen? It's really starting to annoy me.

It usually happens when a General gets married?

this happens alot in 1.2 mood swings for marriage into other factios IE. royal ties will give +3 to loyal, -1 when left rotting away in a settlement thats only in my experience

**Shocktoop** · June 13, 2007, 02:13 PM

Maybe he is just a whiney brat. Who knows?

**JoeCole3200** · June 13, 2007, 07:32 PM

it depends what type of character or general he is.

for example, i have a family member that has only 1 star command but his is a 'budding bureaucrat' and so i left him in my capitol and he never got pi*sed off, and eventually he got traits like 'understands trade' and 'mining knowledge' etc etc.

When i have a family member/general with good command and military traits, he gets annoyed when i leave them in cities idle. so it depends what type of character he starts out as.

jc

**preston** · June 13, 2007, 07:45 PM

that happens to me all the time. Infact i'm playing an english campaign with Prince Rufus with William conqueror and the little brat rufus decides he isn't appreciated and we are out there kicking rebel butt. wtf is up with that?? and i have that happen to me alot to in general to any of my named characters.

**JoeCole3200** · June 13, 2007, 07:50 PM

it does happen alot, you just have to make sure your 'Generals' that have good military traits, are out in combat all the time, otherwise you will allways get the feeling un-appreciated trait. the worst one is when a general 'feels 'disrespected' thats even worse lol

jc

**preston** · June 13, 2007, 07:58 PM

disrespected? i haven't seen that one yet. what does it do -2 loyalty +1 dread?

**JoeCole3200** · June 13, 2007, 08:10 PM

i think its actually -3 loyalty! none of my generals have the trait at the moment. its quite an uncommon one. but hey look at this one...this one is brilliant!!!

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**Axe-Battler** · June 13, 2007, 08:08 PM

Every other turn one of my family members either feels Appreciated: +1 Loyalty, and the next turn he feels unappreciated: -1 Loyalty.

Why does this happen? It's really starting to annoy me.

It usually happens when a General gets married?

ever since 1.2 patch that has happened to all of my generals constantly!

I think it's a trait fix - bug, (they maybe added something to the traits that brought along a bug with it?)

**preston** · June 13, 2007, 08:12 PM

lol! holy crap -3?!? i miss the lily livered bed wetter from RTW. is that in the game. it was so funny

**Recluse** · June 13, 2007, 10:08 PM

I see this all the time too now that I patched to 1.2.

Sometimes it makes perfect sense, like when you adopt someone into the royal family and the other "brothers" feel less appreciated, or when you leave a military commander sitting in a city, or you keep taking a bureaucrat into battle.

But sometimes it makes no sense, like when you marry off a daughter or princess and her brothers feel unappreciated. Is this some sort of weird incestuous thing or what?

**Kalos** · June 13, 2007, 10:26 PM

I had an 8 loyalty general who got the "Feels unappreciated" trait. The next turn he went rebel. I sent a unit of spearmen against him, slaughtered him, and the captain of the spearmen unit got a "Man of the Hour" thing. The new guy had *Really* good stats too.

**The Sundance Kid** · June 17, 2007, 07:01 AM

man of the hour lets you get great generals, but my god does the adoption annoy me....and like you said, why do generals with high loyalty always feel unappreciated? ive taken to never accepting marriages, adoptions or man of the hour at all, unless ive set up a marriage myself. its just too much hassle with heirs and so on.