Not able to recruit St. Johns Knight??!! Althought there is a chapter house...

[Dogma75]

I am playing the flemish (I found the translation...) faction. I now have since 4 turns a minor chapter house from the St. Johns knights order in antwerp but can't recruit any knights there?

No mounted or dismounted knights.

I have a normal clean instalation. Vanilla, Patch 1.02, (deinstalled all before, even used a regcleaner) then DLV 3.1 and both enhancers!

Since I wanted to play both knight orders - Templars and St. Johns - I changed the "export_descr_guilds.txt" file and killed the line where each other doesn't allow another guild.
Hence there was no such file in my vanilla data folder and also not in the DLV data folder I copied it out of the data folder from the " the long road" mod into vanilla and DLV data folders.

I now killed both text files and also cant recruit the St. Johns knights. So I don't think its an error belonging / due to the text file!!

My ques is now is it a fault or is it a modded thing that i can't recruit them with the minor chapter house so that I have to wait for the next upgrade of the chapter house?

And if somebody has the normal vanilla "export_descr_guilds.txt" file could he plz upload it here?

[Dogma75]

I recognized one thing after looking over the units in the single battle menu.

The flemish faction has no dismounted Templar and no dismounted St. Johns knights unit to choose. Only the normal mounted ones...

Ireland has only the Templars to choose and that are only the mounted knights.
Maybe thats the problem?

[Dogma75]

So I searched a little bit deeper and did take a long look in the "export_descr_unit.txt" file from the DLV_ext / data folder.

type Dismounted Knights Templar
dictionary Dismounted_Knights_Templar ; Dismounted Knights ownership england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary


type Dismounted Knights Hospitaller
dictionary Dismounted_Knights_Hospitaller ; Dismounted Knights Hospitaller
ownership england, scotland, france, denmark, milan, venice, papal_states, sicily, poland, hungary

In both unit describtions flanders and Ireland do not own them. So they cant produce them, right?

As I am no modder and have no experience with such things plz can you guys check this?

[Belgae]

indeed, for flanders, there is no choice dimounted/normal and you only get them at the second tier (also see export_descr_building.txt).
However, dismounted knights would be rather lost on Flanders, since they already have superb militia infantry at a far better price... And of course cavalry is the weak spot of Flanders, so giving them simple acces to order knights as a way to cover that weakness would turn them in a (even bigger) powerhouse! These knights should be a lucky supplement for this faction...

Order knights helped out Flanders against France in the Battle of the Golden Spurs though...

[Dogma75]

thx for the quick reply Belgae

Sad that flanders dont get them that early and then restricted. I like the orders cauze they add a certain flair to the game.

I experimented a little bit with the "export_descr_unit.txt" and the "export_descr_building.txt" file. Now the flemish can recruit the dismounted St. Johns knights but instead of the normal pic for them in the unit and army describtion there is a roman peasant pic...

How can I change that one?

And how can I lower the refresh rate of them cause 7 rounds for dismounted order knights seems a bit to much for me...

[Belgae]

Hehe... The peasants... See those a lot in the flanders faction...
I just can't figure out how to solve it. I had some experience with adding units in RTW, but the M2TW coding is still mostly mystery for me. Should look at the tutorials for a change...
I wouldn't change the refresh rate to much. As I said, you'll over-power your cavalry-arm. Those knights should be your tactical cav-reserve only to be used in really crucial battles! (but hey, it's your game, after all...)
What I WILL change is the recruitment in the Flanders faction: I will move the simple spear militia one tier barracks earlier and switch the Badelaar Militia and Merchant Swordmen.
In the first ten turns of the game, Flanders can't recruit anything but peasants now and at turn ~15 they suddenly have access to the Merchant Swordmen! My changes would solve the first lack of troops, and the Badelaar will be a step-stone to the real Merchant Swordmen.

Cheers!

[Ordensritter]

I'm playing the hole time with the dismounted order knights for flanders. I had also added the dismounted order knights for DlV.
I didn't released it because the creator of the flanders mod is the opinion that flanders shouldn't have so many knights.
Actualy i'm playing DlV 3.0, but when i'm going to 3.1 enh2, i'll release a mini-mod with dismounted order knights for flanders and ireland.