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    Default cannabis not so safe after all?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6732005.stm

    alot of people here argue its safe, however this news report flys in the face of that

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    Thats one of the main reasons why I quit smoking it 3 years ago. Smoked everyday for 5 years or so, then It really started to bother me mentally, so I quit. Good thing I did too. I feel better fo' sho.

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    It affects the nervous system, I believe. But it doesn't kill you, which is why people just brush it off as there are more harmful things to worry about, like cigarettes, alcohol, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyam Popat View Post
    But it doesn't kill you
    Other than that whole cancer concept that I hear people talking about.

    I hear that the strength of Cannabis is increasing these days? I haven't smoked it in a while (in large quantities that is) but if people are using uber special powered hardcore Skunk then maybe that is part of this problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by William the Bastard View Post
    Other than that whole cancer concept that I hear people talking about.
    Cancer from cannabis? Where? Tar is carcenogenic, which is in cigarettes, not in cannabis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyam Popat View Post
    Cancer from cannabis? Where? Tar is carcenogenic, which is in cigarettes, not in cannabis.
    Most people use tobacco to fill a J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William the Bastard View Post
    Other than that whole cancer concept that I hear people talking about.
    marijuana doesn't cause cancer


    I'm wondering why I haven't heard of anything like this is in the states, when there are plenty of more users here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelican Man View Post
    feel better fo' sho.
    and yet your english has degenerated into semibarbaric prattle.

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    Cannabis not so safe
    Started laughing right then.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RZZZA View Post
    Started laughing right then.




    "KNOW YOUR DOPE FIEND! You will not be able to see his eyes because of tea shades, but his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crusted with semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim. "
    did you even read my link?

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    i dont have to because I know its B.S. People going crazy because of marijuana? B.S. straight out of the reefer madness period. Throughout history there have been multiple reefer madness periods, it never subsides.



    Reminds me of the southpark episode where the boys find a joint on a tree stump and everybody is afraid to touch it because they think touching it will make them stupid.

    But, of course, if you wish to believe that smoking marijuana is likely to cause schizophrenia or insanity or whatever then youre welcome to, I dont care...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RZZZA View Post
    But, of course, if you wish to believe that smoking marijuana is likely to cause schizophrenia or insanity or whatever then youre welcome to, I dont care...
    Yeah, all that "science" and "evidence" crap is total BS. (Joking aside, I still think it should be legal...or at least, less illegal).

    As a further aside, marijuana smoking does indeed increase the risk of cancer, because smoke itself is carcinogenic. It contains free radicals, which can damage cellular structures, including DNA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RZZZA View Post
    i dont have to because I know its B.S. People going crazy because of marijuana? B.S. straight out of the reefer madness period. Throughout history there have been multiple reefer madness periods, it never subsides.



    Reminds me of the southpark episode where the boys find a joint on a tree stump and everybody is afraid to touch it because they think touching it will make them stupid.

    But, of course, if you wish to believe that smoking marijuana is likely to cause schizophrenia or insanity or whatever then youre welcome to, I dont care...
    The number of cases were in the 100's. Out of a smoking population of 2 million. It is entirely possible that it is true even if you don't know anyone who has been affected by it.

    I assume this is your evidence because, well what else would your evidence be? We know it's not hospital admissions in Britain.

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    Default Re: cannabis not so safe after all?

    Quote Originally Posted by RZZZA View Post
    i dont have to because I know its B.S. People going crazy because of marijuana? B.S. straight out of the reefer madness period. Throughout history there have been multiple reefer madness periods, it never subsides.



    Reminds me of the southpark episode where the boys find a joint on a tree stump and everybody is afraid to touch it because they think touching it will make them stupid.

    But, of course, if you wish to believe that smoking marijuana is likely to cause schizophrenia or insanity or whatever then youre welcome to, I dont care...
    so all these people getting mental health problems and being told by doctors (who know more about it then you) that its cannabis related, yet you think its safe?!

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    what about vaporizers? or baking cannabis butter? Problem solved, no more (remote) chance of getting cancer. And what about genetics, doesnt that factor a lot into getting cancers?


    I believe in science and evidence and all that "crap" but what I just dont see is the sensationalist claims like in this article, reflected in reality.



    Wait....no, I'm starting to feel a little bit crazy. I'm starting to see bikini clad women in my mind. And my pants are getting tight. Oh there, it went away, it must have been temporary insanity.

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    Scientific evidence may go back and forth between weather it's "safe" or not, but one thing remains.

    It's just a plain bad investment. I'm, not involved in any of that, so I couldn't quote you exact numbers, but if I'm going to regularly spend moderately large amounts of money on something it better do something benefical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feliks View Post
    It's just a plain bad investment. I'm, not involved in any of that, so I couldn't quote you exact numbers, but if I'm going to regularly spend moderately large amounts of money on something it better do something benefical.
    one man's opinion. I see it no different than people buying booze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Roman View Post
    one man's opinion. I see it no different than people buying booze.
    It's not, I don't drink, smoke, or practice any of those usual vices for mainly economic reasons.

    Particularly cigarette smoking, a person who smokes 1 pack a day will spend around $2,000. That's enough to buy a decent used car, hardly worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feliks View Post
    It's not, I don't drink, smoke, or practice any of those usual vices for mainly economic reasons.

    Particularly cigarette smoking, a person who smokes 1 pack a day will spend around $2,000. That's enough to buy a decent used car, hardly worth it.
    Yes - I smoke 40-50 a day and roughly 1600-1800$ of those 2000 you mentioned are taxes around where I live. I could expect some preferential treatment by the state for paying such amount, don't you think?

    Oh - and cannabis itself holds just as many carcinogens as tobacco - so it doesn't really matter if you mix it or not cancer-wise...

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    personally I don't believe cannabis is safe, but it's not exactly cyanide either.

    alcohol isn't safe either, it destroys your liver and have other negative effects on your body. It also makes many people aggressive, resulting in many alcohol related crimes (most notably assault and drunk driving). Yet it's perfectly legal.

    and don't even get me started on cigarettes...


    My conspiracy theory is this: the alcohol and tobacco industry are afraid of competition (read: loss of income) and their lobby groups are behind, at least partly, the ban on drugs such as cannabis.

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