Natural Disasters

**Primvs Sextvs Loverlord** · June 07, 2007, 12:23 AM

Why do you think they occur?
Do you think it's because of natural reasons or does god have a hand in it? If so, do they occur for the purpose of punishment?

I'm not entirely sure about this, although I believe, to a large extent, that these occur naturally, regardless of whether people die or not or if the people who die are "sinful". I'm surprised how many people still believe that god is directly responsible for earthquakes, etc.

**Thanatos** · June 07, 2007, 12:24 AM

Everything has a reason. They are there to punish us if we have done great evil, or to keep our minds fixed on who's will we totally depend upon for existance.

**Primvs Sextvs Loverlord** · June 07, 2007, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Thanatos

Everything has a reason. They are there to punish us if we have done great evil, or to keep our minds fixed on who's will we totally depend upon for existance.

I see.
When Katrina happened, I knew some people who openly said how America was being punished by god for it's "unjustified war". I was wondering what sort of punishment it was because they were the poor who were suffering .

Anyway, ironic as it is, an earthquake hit northern Pakistan a few weeks later killing more than 100,000. The people that died were not the ones that saw Katrina as god's wrath but they were the ones that had been living in war-torn Kashmir. They were some of the poorest and most hard-working people in the world.

Someone said the quake hit "us" because "we're sinful". If we really are sinful, why did the poor peasants that make their living on the Himalayas get killed? It just doesn't add up.

Everything just leads to the conclusion that these natural disasters are random occurances that have nothing to do with anything divine.

**Irishman** · June 07, 2007, 12:39 AM

Everything has a reason. They are there to punish us if we have done great evil, or to keep our minds fixed on who's will we totally depend upon for existance.

Or maybe it is because people settled near a place where tectonic plates were shifting?

That claim that NATURAL disasters (which incidentally were happening long before humans ever walked the earth) have a purpose (other than perhapse pop. control) is baseless.

**jankren** · June 07, 2007, 01:09 AM

As far as I know natural disasters are necessary for the stability of the earth.

**Sadreddine** · June 07, 2007, 02:05 AM

Natural disasters are caused by the dynamics of nature, and they have a scientifical explanation under the Laws of the Universe. This is the How. And yes, they are created by God and happen "under the hand of God", but that's the same case as everything related to onions, red hot chilli peppers, and yourself.

The Why is more complicated, though.

**Mig el Pig** · June 07, 2007, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ibn Rushd

Natural disasters are caused by the dynamics of nature, and they have a scientifical explanation under the Laws of the Universe. This is the How. And yes, they are created by God and happen "under the hand of God", but that's the same case as everything related to onions, red hot chilli peppers, and yourself.

The Why is more complicated, though.

Ibn rushd, your anwser reminds me of

which isn't a very good thing.

**Primvs Sextvs Loverlord** · June 07, 2007, 08:58 PM

Wow, aren't these the people that show up at the funerals of soldiers? Truly disgusting.

**Thanatos** · June 08, 2007, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mig el Pig

**Sadreddine** · June 07, 2007, 02:32 AM

But Mig el Pig, existence is no lalalaland, nor was intended to be so, for then it would me meaningless.

To be dead, one must have been alive.

**redirflow** · June 07, 2007, 03:45 AM

"natural disasters" can be defined as the activities of the Earth's life. we are just one of the very tiny "creatures" on the Earth.

**Chaigidel** · June 07, 2007, 08:16 AM

yes natural disasters are usually just exceptionally violent processes of a planets life, being small and fleshy inhabitants of this earth we are afraid of these movements within our mother, because they usually bring death to us.

when ancient man faced an earthquake or tornado it would be terrible difficult to believe the event was not in some way motivated by god

**~~removeduser_487563287433~~** · June 08, 2007, 01:02 AM

Natural disasters are almost entirely natural occurances, though man may contribute to them.

**jankren** · June 08, 2007, 01:08 AM

Men ourselves are part of nature.

**The Genuine Cookie Monster** · October 09, 2011, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Mahmud Ghaznavi

Why do you think they occur?
Do you think it's because of natural reasons or does god have a hand in it? If so, do they occur for the purpose of punishment?

I'm not entirely sure about this, although I believe, to a large extent, that these occur naturally, regardless of whether people die or not or if the people who die are "sinful". I'm surprised how many people still believe that god is directly responsible for earthquakes, etc.

From what I've seen in your posts, you sound to be an atheist... (or by beliefs at least)
At times, natural disasters occur regardless of people's virtues/vices, & off course God is in charge of this all and behind this all. Everything he does has some logic into it, and so he makes it all go through the scientific processes. So, It's God obviously behind this all, and this matters to him. Disasters in themselves are an advantage to Earth, or how would Earth go through evolution & all... Every life has to come to an end, plus to maintain the constancy of the population & all, Natural disasters are necessary.

**Ancient Aliens** · October 09, 2011, 05:39 PM

You would think that attributing natural disasters to the will of the gods would have died out hundreds, if not thousands of years ago, but apparently it hasn't...