Any ideas for new factions?

**celtwarrior** · June 03, 2007, 02:49 AM

Here is a list of factions that should be on M2TW.

1. Lithuanians
2. Croatians
3. Serbians
4. Burgundians
5. Aragonese
6. Pomeranians
7. Hammadites
8. Bulgarians
9. Norwegians
10. Welsh
11. Seminoles (New World)
12. Cherokees (New World)

I am new on this forum and so if anybody knows where I can find some of these factions in a mod that would be great. Also, if anybody has any other factions to add to the list, that would be good also.

**celtwarrior** · June 03, 2007, 02:54 AM

Let me add one more faction name to the mix. How about the Florentines? If you know history, they were among the wealthiest factions during that time. Florence was a very influential city.

**Erik Blutaxt II** · June 03, 2007, 09:44 AM

Yes, Italy needs a little makeover.
Florence would certainly be an option, Pisa already appears in Portucale. Something additional in middle italy would be nice as well, maybe Ancona, also i don't know wether they had any relevance as a city state...
What i still hope for is a mod which makes the hre what it actually was: a vast collection of smaller "countries" who elect the emperor, but do not necessarily support him. Maybe someone could steal the concept from Europa Universalis III and make a nice mod out of it?

**billydilly** · June 03, 2007, 12:12 PM

I don't think Florence will be added as a faction. I think all the factions slots are taken, maybe there's room for one more.

**Dimitri_Harkov** · June 04, 2007, 03:03 AM

As far as I am concerned every faction that existed should be included...
Unfortunately, with a limit of 31 factions, this will be rather difficult. But I'm quite sure the addon will raise the faction limit.

**Rob_the_Celt** · June 07, 2007, 02:18 AM

With the limited number of faction slots the only way I can think of portraying all of those factions would be to use 1 slot as a second rebel faction and break it into subfactions as the rebel faction does, then develop units that would be used by each of those factions listed that can only be recruitable in their home region(s) to stop them from expanding too quickly.

**Dimitri_Harkov** · June 07, 2007, 03:42 AM

That's quite a good idea.
I'd miss the diplomacy with the 'minor factions' but still better than nothing.

**Rob_the_Celt** · June 07, 2007, 07:17 AM

I attempted to do it the other day but the amount of work that would be involved is crazy, you need to develop multiple factions and then cannot control any of them separately, and they all have the same banners and accents with no diplomacy. There is probably a good way to do it though, and some representation of a faction is better than nothing as you say.

**Erik Blutaxt II** · June 11, 2007, 04:41 PM

Anyway, another faction which would certainly improve gameplay is Flanders. It could be taken from the Lion of Flanders Mod, if the author gives permission. I really miss them in rpm, ideal position between france, hre and england.

**EzE** · June 11, 2007, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by celtwarrior

Here is a list of factions that should be on M2TW.

1. Lithuanians
2. Croatians
3. Serbians
4. Burgundians
5. Aragonese
6. Pomeranians
7. Hammadites
8. Bulgarians
9. Norwegians
10. Welsh
11. Seminoles (New World)
12. Cherokees (New World)

I am new on this forum and so if anybody knows where I can find some of these factions in a mod that would be great. Also, if anybody has any other factions to add to the list, that would be good also.

Lithuanians are in Clouds Across Europe and Portvcale
Aragonese are in Portvcale
Serbian are in an addon the rob the celt did for Regions&ProvincesBM 2.3
Welsh are in a mod by PXZyan that adds Ireland and Wales to vanilla.

That is all I know of.

Hope it helps you - you can always do a search in the released mods and hosted mods sections for the key words you are looking for.

**Paul d** · June 11, 2007, 10:16 PM

well we dont want the british isles to be too crowded. the Welsh werent very imperialistic in their ambitions.

**Powerbean** · June 14, 2007, 01:56 AM

How about Sweds? Would be really cool.

**sb2ean** · June 14, 2007, 06:15 AM

How about Sweds? Would be really cool

Well if you mean Sweden , they are already included..

Only one faction space remains , if another faction was added I think a Kiev faction would be best.
I seem to have reached some unit limit so a new faction may not be possible

I have an unplayable Syrian faction that I have been testing , Armenia kept taking Damascus to quickly so I thought it would be good idea.

**billydilly** · June 14, 2007, 09:41 AM

A syrian faction would be nice. Couldn't they just use egyptian and tuekish units?

Anyways, I think it's excellent with the new factions in the Middle East, Hedjaz pressing Egypt, Armenia and Georgia fighting the Turks. Brilliant stuff!

**sb2ean** · June 14, 2007, 01:08 PM

Yes thats what I was thinking , just standard units + saracen , arab cav etc
I suppose they could be playable as well , I just have them unplayable at moment as they are their to slow Armenia down a bit.
I have been having a Hedjaz campaign and am up to turn 38 now
its quite tough , had many battles over Bostra with egypt , you really have to think about your turns or you can easily run out of money
I also had a severe Heretic problem with mecca , my top Imam was turned to a heretic , and every Imam I sent to denounce him failed so I had 3 heretics at once

, luckyily I had extra Imam from the Kaaba to counter