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    Default If there were no Muslims or Christians....

    the overpopulation problem would be instantly solved
    there would be no jihad, and suicide bombing would not be in vogue
    no modern <read near medieval> concept of heaven or hell
    and homosexuals would be what they were through most of history = people


    there would be........

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    Jews?

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    lets just take it to another step and say, what if the there was no religion....

    The world would be much better, although maybe a bit less interesting. However, the human race would probably find something else to fight about lol

    The only concept that the communists ever get right was that "religion is poison", I truly agree with them there.
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    If there were no Muslims or Christians, due to the Chaos Theory, you or I would not exist. Now, its your business if you want to exist, but I'm thankful that they helped me exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crul View Post
    lets just take it to another step and say, what if the there was no religion....

    The world would be much better, although maybe a bit less interesting. However, the human race would probably find something else to fight about lol

    The only concept that the communists ever get right was that "religion is poison", I truly agree with them there.
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    no, let's not crul - also, no to Chaos Theory, a wonderful but truly misunderstood train of human thought

    this is a flame/troll magnet already - your reenvisioning would make it a war....

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    Quote Originally Posted by enoch View Post
    no, let's not crul - also, no to Chaos Theory, a wonderful but truly misunderstood train of human thought

    this is a flame/troll magnet already - your reenvisioning would make it a war....
    ...whut? I mean, if they didn't exist, my parents and their parents etc. wouldn't exist, or be the same people, so I wouldn't be me. I like being me, so am thankful, therefore, to my cause, which can be traced to the existence of both Islam and Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyam Popat View Post
    ...whut? I mean, if they didn't exist, my parents and their parents etc. wouldn't exist, or be the same people, so I wouldn't be me. I like being me, so am thankful, therefore, to my cause, which can be traced to the existence of both Islam and Christianity.
    Granted, but you could say the same thing about pretty much anyone or anything, including Hitler.

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    but... how would that solve overpopulation exactly? War is better for overpopulation... I can only think of homosexuals as people...


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    not everything is literal
    truth lies at the crossroads of irony

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    Quote Originally Posted by enoch View Post
    not everything is literal
    truth lies at the crossroads of irony
    Your way of saying, "I dunno".

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    Quote Originally Posted by enoch View Post

    the overpopulation problem would be instantly solved
    I don't know. Getting rid of the chinese and indians might be a more practical option.

    there would be no jihad, and suicide bombing would not be in vogue
    You can only blame islam for that.

    no modern <read near medieval> concept of heaven or hell
    and your point is?

    and homosexuals would be what they were through most of history = people
    1. They are people

    2. homosexuals have been looked down upon in civilizations throughout history. There are only a handful of civilizations where they were fully accepted and treated the same as everyone else (namingly the greeks).


    there would be........
    Well if you were to get rid of the jews than Germany would be free of its economic and political slump wouldn't it? After all, they are the ones at fault for the worlds problems anyway. Right?

    Your logic is immature and somewhat inflamatory.

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    luckily my reasoning is far beyond the confines of maturity, eh?

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    OK... yeah. So, do you agree, disagree, and why? Jeez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enoch View Post
    luckily my reasoning is far beyond the confines of maturity, eh?
    No. The point is you are making statements that are ill thought out and kinda stupid.

    By saying "wouldn't the world be better without [insert any religious or ethnic group here]", you are demonstrating a degree of prejudice towards that group. You can't blame an entire religious or cultural group for the worlds problems. To do so shows immaturity. In any case, I think what needs to be said is that the world would be a much better place without backwards thinking, intolerant and hateful people (such as religious extremists).

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    You can't blame an entire religious or cultural group for the worlds problems.
    Well, if one of the worlds problems is a lack of education, and there is a religon that is intrinsically against education and is followed by a large number of people, then that religion would be partially responsible for the problem.

    Just to clarify, I'm not saying anything about Christianity or Islam, I'm using a hypothetical religion to make a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegionnaireX View Post
    I don't know. Getting rid of the chinese and indians might be a more practical option.

    You can only blame islam for that.

    1. They are people

    2. homosexuals have been looked down upon in civilizations throughout history. There are only a handful of civilizations where they were fully accepted and treated the same as everyone else (namingly the greeks).

    Well if you were to get rid of the jews than Germany would be free of its economic and political slump wouldn't it? After all, they are the ones at fault for the worlds problems anyway. Right?

    Your logic is immature and somewhat inflamatory.
    Quote Originally Posted by LegionnaireX View Post
    No. The point is you are making statements that are ill thought out and kinda stupid.

    By saying "wouldn't the world be better without [insert any religious or ethnic group here]", you are demonstrating a degree of prejudice towards that group. You can't blame an entire religious or cultural group for the worlds problems. To do so shows immaturity. In any case, I think what needs to be said is that the world would be a much better place without backwards thinking, intolerant and hateful people (such as religious extremists).


    I am saying
    Quote Originally Posted by enoch
    If there were no Muslims or Christians.....
    which is an entirely vague statement meant to inspire different trains of thought in each individual
    even my examples are sufficiently without argument
    although they are clearly designed to hint at minimum 4 different directions that can be taken, some more inflammatory than others

    that you chose to interpret the statement this way, is for you to ponder
    as are the choices everything else made for them to each themselves reflect upon
    words are always filled with many, many levels of meaning
    words can also be great tools, which is just another word for weapons in some schools of thought........
    Last edited by enoch; June 01, 2007 at 10:09 PM. Reason: "the statement"

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    I feel generalisation. Duh!

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    Shy,
    I meant exactly what I said in reference to your inquiry.

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    en... you're skirting around it very well. And, its Shyam.

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