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    Default What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    Hey everyone. I've been playing this game with SS for a while on VH/VH. Now my thinking is that on VH campaign difficulty the diplomacy would be more realistic or so. But with 1 year per turn, year 1156 with Turks I just started to wonder... what difficulty has the best diplomacy and at that the best challenge?

    For instance on my current campaign some anomolies have popped up:

    Templars and Egypt are allies (this happens every campaign or at least they ceasefire by turn 4 or so- very predictable)

    I declare a jihad on a templar city, Antioch, templars are a vassal of egypt; instead of breaking its alliance with a christian faction... in the middle of a jihad the egyptians break their alliance with ME a fellow Islamic faction in favor of Templars... that made little sense to me. Also my relations with the world seemd to go to abysmal overnight though I suppose jihadding a christian faction will do that..

    Also I am deemed very untrustworthy right now for some reason.. I heard it was because you execute prisoners that your rep is lowered which doesnt make sense I mean... according to my logic.. you can trust me to execute your soldiers.. duh.. lol. So what can I do to get that back up? I stick to ransoming now, all my enemies seem to be cold hearted enough to compensate now.

    -Thanks.

    P.S. do AI factions hold grudges for certain cities that you took from them? I took Nicosia from the Byzantines at the height of my war with them and ever since then they have sent massive army after army to be vanquished at its triple layered walls... it is under seige now.. For The FIFTH Time... I find it quite funny although since I am always outnumbered several to one.. having to fight it out on the battle map for 20 minutes each seige is annoying..

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    I play M/H or M/VH and it seems balanced enough.



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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    Quote Originally Posted by Poisoner View Post
    I play M/H or M/VH and it seems balanced enough.
    Thats what i do. M/VH. Its very balancing.

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    I play on H/VH (camp/battle). VH campaign is just stupid (imo).

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    i play h/vh..

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    lol, i did vh/vh.. it's hard, and ai has incredible advantage over us, but.. hey? why not?

    +rep for me if you agree with me , i might give it right back to you

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    Playing vh/vh is both challenging and frustrating. Losing battles are common but gaining heroic victories are just as common. It gives great satisfaction when my generals and units gain experiences very quickly. But on the hind side, money is the main headache. I always seize the opportunity to recover maintainence of units 2 turns before a successful jihad or crusade. I activate all unit stacks for the holy war even though other factions were on the brink of success. High risk with AI factions since I'm unable to control the battle but as the sayin goes...no pain, no gain. I call this risk an ingame gamble, not a cheat. Honestly, I screwed up more times than I should resulting in massive desertions. Game Over!!!

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    I am not blowing my own trupmet, so to speak, but I play on vh vh as egytp at the moment and I find it easy. am i missing something? is egypt an easy faction to play?

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    alright, just wondering. I actually like VH campaign; what with Russia invading me its the Crimean War all over again Though they've taken Tblisi and Trebizond... my mining hub ... but I took Sarkel lol. Although... if I can't reorganize my armies into simple cohesive units... I can see myself losing within the next 40 turns.. I have a lot of generals and troops all over the place. With constant AI attacks its near impossible to combine them correctly as I am now fighting on 3 fronts lol.

    Thanks King. I can't wait until I can get my Janissaries though.. when that happens.. all of Europe will bow to Ottoman might! Muwahaha!

    And about diplomacy one biug thing I realized... early game alliances are the best and most easiest to make. At the onset any Christian faction regarded an alliance with me as generous or very generous.. I gotta work on public relations lol.

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    h/vh here = perfect

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    Roma, ur right, either ur missing something or egypt is easy to play. I never played it b4, but i'm persuming it should be quite easy considering that Egypt doesn't have that many enemy around them, plus , they have a bigger empire to gain money from.
    I also agree with eastern red, honestly, money is a headache, who has ever won a vh/vh campaign with a small empire such as milan or venice without cheats? It is pretty ridiculous, but, i guess it's fun at the same time. I personally had no problem cause i cheated, only at the begining tho, i start with 30000 instead 8000, although it's not that much, but it's good enough to give me a head start.. So ya. It depends on how you like to play. vh if you like it challenging m if you like domination

    +rep for me if you agree with me , i might give it right back to you

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    Egypt is a pretty easy campaign. Perfect position with no enemies near you and plenty of valuable rebel settlements. You start out with three of the most profitable cities on the map (Alexandria, Cairo, Thebes).

    VH is fun in terms of 'action', but I just don't like the fact that the only method CA could come up with to make a campaign "very hard" was to make every single faction attack you.

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    because the higher the difficulty the more aggressive other nations, it makes it very difficult to get a realistic balance, where others are open to alliances/negotiation but you still get the challenge.
    I thought that the higher the difficulty the bigger the AI stacks that get sent out, for me that would be preferable rather than everyone just making a beeline for my domain and treating me like the devils spawn!

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    Well, I can't actually tell if h/vh or vh/vh is better, since I only play on vh/vh.

    Actually I like it when I have a certain amount of settlements that most other factions ally against me, since I always like the greatest challenge...

    However, proabably a h/vh campaign is also very challenging, but it should have a little more reasonable diplomacy...

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    its just that on vh/vh u get invaded by everyone, all are against u. For example, play as england and expect france, HRE, denmark scotland portugal and moors to attack u .. hard may balance it out a little, never tried.

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    Default Re: What's the best Camp. Diff? H or VH?

    hmm that seems weird. Hopefully CA will be able to iron out the kinks in diplomacy in the 1.3 patch.

    In the same vein anyone here used that UAI mod? I've heard of it but never tried it before.

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