Consolidated unit-suggestion thread, other unit related questions and suggestions here...
In recognition of the requests made by 'chomskola', 'Daray', myself and others, I thought that, in leading up to v1.0, it may be necessary to create a unit suggestion thread (with a sticky maybe)?
Now starting with Chomskola's most recent requests, I agree that Hungary could do a few unique units as Hungary is a fascinating combination of Western European with stark Steppe flavour, heavy western infantry, heavy western cavalry and western sergeants and spearmen. Along with native and foreign influenced horse archers, light infantry, skirmishers and spearmen..
As for new units, I really don't know enough about them, either culturally or militarily... So Chomskola... If you want to elaborate... Be my guest mate...
A second one like Hungary, would be Poland. Poland again for a Christian Kingdom, is quite unique, with Polish cavalry being some of the finest in the region lest alone central/eastern Europe..
Here are a couple of suggestions I've made in the past:
'Poczty':
Poor Knights of the Polish Nobility, these 'Poczty' are grizzly prinsoners of war, too poor to pay themselves out of ransom and henceforth choose rather to fight for their new masters than rot in prison. The 'Poczty', although, due the nature of serving new masters, may give a false impression of dubious loyalty, this is however, a very inaccurate assumption made by many throughout the Medieval world. The 'Poczty', much like the rest of the Polish Nobility, and on that note, much of the entirety of Poland, are fanatically driven to defend the boarders of their beloved country. Well equipped by their masters, these Knights and Squires of war are very well suited to combat environments, especially that of the great 'Steppe'. These men ride on swift horses into battle, even though they are well armoured, although not the heaviest mounted knights in Europe, this however, combined with their fighting `elan, make the Retainers of the 'Poczty' some of the best medium cavalrymen of their time. The 'Poczty' cavalrymen are swift and decisive, and with their 'Kopia', or cavalry lances, their charge is deadly, so repeated cavalry charges are what these cavalrymen do best. When in pursuit, their sabres can do untold damage to routers and undisciplined infantry that fail to 'hold the line'.
Another couple of Polish suggestions:
Lipka Tatar Cavalry - Tough hourse archers of Mongol/Cuman/Tatar decent, those whom seek refuge from the scourge and seek better lands, these men, followers of the Sunni sect of Islam, choose to align themselves, and their servicing with the Polish crown. The Lipka Tatar Cavalry are the quintessential Mongolian Steppe Cavalry/Horse Archer, armed with awesome recurved bows, riding swift Steppe ponies and equipped with light armour and a deadly Sabre, the Lipka Tatar Cavalry are a versatile unit that gives any Polish commander a great advantage over his more 'cumbersome' European neighbours, plus it allows most Polish forces to hold there own against the deadly swarms of other Steppe cavalry archers.
Galician Mounted and Foot Knights. The Ukrainian Galician region (Not to be confused with the Spanish Galicia region) was famed for both its mounted and foot knights.
Other random ideas from MTW I:
Militia sergeants.
Billmen (for England).
Longbowmen (for England).
Catalanian Javlineers (Almugarves?) - Aragon.
Rus Spearmen - Novgorod & Kiev.
Teutonic Sergents - Teutonic Knights and/or H.R.E.
Order foot soldiers (Large unit size, disciplined crusader unit armed with large spears and well armoured)...
Norman foot kngihts.. (Played pivotal roles at Hastings, Dyracchium and a host of other battles).
I think the current 'Thematokoi Kontaratoi' should be renamed 'Thematikoi Peripoloi', they don't warrant the 'Kontaratoi' there stats and fighting ability reflect that of an irregular militia unit if not worse... As for 'Kontaratoi', as Zenith Darksea has previously outline, usually and accurately, denotes an either heavy and/or professional unit. Which in truth is what the current unit is most definitely not...
As I've said before, the Byzantine unit roster is near awe inspiring... However, there needs to be a good rethink about the approach made by the team on the issue before committing to the final version... Originally that is why I 'committed' to the Byzantium sub-mod, then other things disallowed me to contribute in a constructive manner... Still, once SCC is back up I'll be back on board for sure.. However, even the Byzantines in the original Chiv could do with a little more work and some final touch-ups...
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Originally Posted by Shadow_Imperator
I´m just afraid I can´t help much with it...
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