Oppida (aka the view settlement mod)

[alpaca]

I guess SS adds or changes settlements so, no.

[Saratoga]

Anyone got this working for PDER, or can make it?, will be damn nice to have this feature!

[Ataegina]

its possible view the settlement without having a battle?

[alpaca]

Yes and no. You don't have to really fight a battle, but a battle will be created by the mod script in order to get you into the settlement. It'll end with you winning, without any effects on traits, etc.

[Ataegina]

weird because i've tried one time exit battle and this ends with defeat, in result this killed my general and all my units leaving my settlement empty of troops.... :/

[alpaca]

I think the process is described in the read-me, you should hit escape then wait until the battle end screen pops up

[Theseus1234]

EDIT: nvm

which files do you have to move where in order to use this mod in other mods? i know its in the readme, but i dont quite understand

also, could i just change the install the directory to a different mod, like Retrofit or SS?

[alpaca]

You can't directly use it in other mods because it requires a re-working of the traits and ancillaries. It has to be implemented by the mod makers

[Theseus1234]

so is there no way to incorporate this with others?

[alpaca]

Yes there is but you need to rework fairly large parts of the mod because all triggers that react on a battle being won or ended need to be specifically told to not react on the "view settlement" battles.

[meznaric]

Has anybody already integrated this into The Long Road mod?

[Augustus Lucifer]

Yes there is but you need to rework fairly large parts of the mod because all triggers that react on a battle being won or ended need to be specifically told to not react on the "view settlement" battles.

So if I want to add this feature in my mod, I just need to look through your files and find in the triggers section for traits/ancs which Condition you're using such as:

and not View_Settlement

or similar and add that to every battle-related trait/ancillary? Only speaking to this portion since you addressed it, I can't DL the files and look at them from this computer but will do so later tonight.

EDIT: Also, does this effect the Battles Won/Lost on the Faction Summary scroll? Or is that parsed out in a similar way to the traits/ancs? I don't think it makes a difference if it does, but just wondering.

Nice implementation by the way, would rep you but you've chosen to toil away in not-so-obscure obscurity .

Cheers,
Augustus

[alpaca]

Yeah that's the idea. The triggers have to be changed to make sure people don't use these battles to train their generals. Originally, I wanted to end the battles in a draw but the appropriate command doesn't work properly so I had to do it this way.
And yes, it does affect the faction overview scroll as a victory. I never look at that anyways though and considered it a small enough price to pay.

As for the reputation thing: It's one of those forum features I just don't appreciate. It provokes people to all kinds of silly behaviour and doesn't really mean anything (to me at least, I guess there are some people who like having a lot of reputation). Besides, I'd rather have people actually pass a comment if they like or don't like what I do - it's much more valuable.

[Augustus Lucifer]

Yeah that's the idea. The triggers have to be changed to make sure people don't use these battles to train their generals. Originally, I wanted to end the battles in a draw but the appropriate command doesn't work properly so I had to do it this way.
And yes, it does affect the faction overview scroll as a victory. I never look at that anyways though and considered it a small enough price to pay.

As for the reputation thing: It's one of those forum features I just don't appreciate. It provokes people to all kinds of silly behaviour and doesn't really mean anything (to me at least, I guess there are some people who like having a lot of reputation). Besides, I'd rather have people actually pass a comment if they like or don't like what I do - it's much more valuable.

Okay well that makes sense. And the faction overview scroll is actually used in a condition, let me see if I can find it...

Oh, it's actually three:

	Identifier:	BattlesFought
	Trigger requirements:	faction
	Parameters:	"logic token, quantity"
	Sample use:	BattlesFought = 6
	Description:	How many battles has the player fought so far during this campaign?
	Battle or Strat:	Either
	Class:	BATTLES_FOUGHT
		
	Identifier:	BattlesWon
	Trigger requirements:	faction
	Parameters:	"logic token, quantity"
	Sample use:	BattlesWon = 6
	Description:	How many battles has the player won so far during this campaign?
	Battle or Strat:	Either
	Class:	BATTLES_WON
		
	Identifier:	BattlesLost
	Trigger requirements:	faction
	Parameters:	"logic token, quantity"
	Sample use:	BattlesLost = 6
	Description:	How many battles has the player won so far during this campaign?
	Battle or Strat:	Either
	Class:	BATTLES_LOST

So in addition to adding the and not parameter to the battle type, scripters should also be wary of making events fire based on any of the above conditions, since they could be triggered early via view abuse. I don't see it as a big issue though, like you said, and in fact the only idea I had for the above three conditions would be relatively hard to script(and probably wouldn't need this settlement viewer addition anyways).

Agreed about the reputation thing.

Cheers,
Augustus

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

The mod wont work for me whenever i tell it to locate settlement it just goes to a screen showing all my buildings. any ideas how to fix this?

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

The mod wont work for me whenever i tell it to locate settlement it just goes to a screen showing all my buildings. any ideas how to fix this?

I got it to work a while back ty for the mod Alpaca as well as for all of you'r tools

I presume this is compatible with retrofit?

[★Bandiera Rossa☭]

Hey alpaca can I use this in my mod?

[Userpro]

only this infos are in the logfile:
16:08:13.078 [data.invalid] [error] BATTLE_MAP_AREAS unhandled situation : See Charlie
16:11:11.468 [data.invalid] [error] BATTLE_MAP_AREAS unhandled situation :
Can we ignore them ?

It's a battlemap-generator-engine error due to a "bad" position of the settlement.
Example: Settlement is attached to a river and was attacked from a bridge position.

[rikkardo]

A REALLY BIG THANKYOU ALPACA!

was gutted that this wasn't a feature on the vanilla game (and nearly didn't start playing it for that reason - i'm a fussy bugger)

just out of interest does the city you're looking at grow over time like they did in Rome?

probably not. but a huge WELL DONE anyhow

rich

[Kuldahar]

Thanks so much Alpaca...this adds so much to the game for me!!!!

Kld