Assassins

[johnhughthom]

I dont normally bother with assassins in TW games but decided to recruit one to get rid of a pesky diplomat in my current Romani game using 0.81v2. He failed numerous times to kill him and has ended up with a -3 agent skill. I have sent him on a tour of europe trying to get him killed by attacking powerful people but even though he fails he always escapes and Im talking about 20-25 attempts. With the frequency my spies get killed Im finding this a bit strange. Its not a big problem of course just curious as to whether hes just very lucky or is it more difficult to kill assassins in EB. He has no traits which would help keep him alive so thats not it.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Sounds like you just got a very lucky/unlucky assassin there. EB didn't add anything that should keep him alive when he fails a mission. In fact, I don't know if there is a way to edit the chance of him surviving a failed mission.

[AceOfSpades]

It is odd how in RTW vanilla and all mods spies die every time they fail whereas assassins often get off scot-free after failing. It seems like, realistically, it should be the other way around.

[Mathius]

Spies have a bad time of it in EB compared to RTR. Surprised you've never bothered with assassins in TW games, I find knocking off enemy generals an invaluable tool...I got probably a bit too much satisfaction from killing off princesses in MTW too. The sound effect was lovely!!

[Cornholio]

the geisha in shogun total war was tremendous: five turns recrution time but you could kill even the highest rank officers with a 50% chance

[AceOfSpades]

The ninjas and geisha were half the fun in Shogun.

[Cornholio]

i loved to assassinate the enemy-shogun with the geisha, that way one was able to erradicate one faction without any drop of blood lost. i liked it

[optio kirkood]

I like Assassins and spys had a srange Assassin take in mtw 2 to kill french king for his son i was told he would be happy was not able to do it so do not know how it would end up. thay started a war in on me after my Assassin was kill red handed . sill won the war wipe them off the map and the pope did not get time to save them it all toot 3 turns

[kingsword]

Well, I just had a very unpleasant experience that I wanted to share it and vent my frustration a bit.

My 10-subterfuge assassin (which in effect would be 12-13 with every effect on him combined) has a 1% chance against any AI general with over 2-3 stars, which is pretty much every one of them. Somehow, the AI didn't try to kill off any of my own in over 400 turns either, so I thought it was the same for them. Apparently, wrong. Or maybe right but I'm extremely unlucky, playing campaign on VH as suggested so I wonder if that affects the chances for me and not for AI.

So, Kaeso Africanvs who was being crafted into my Marian reformer was sent to defend the bridge near the Macedonian border. Macedonians immediately attack and sent two full stacks of armies in the same turn. Both gets decimated, one unit of Principes killed over 1350 of them by itself. In total, I pull off two heroic victories by playing for near 2 hours. Nearly 6000 enemy soldiers are slain. Finally Imperator trait for Kaeso Africanvs' triumph would be mine!

I keep watching the rest of the turn and notice that my bridge defenders now have no leader. But 3 Macedonian assassins are standing near them now. I check faction announcements and see "Fell to an assassin's blade" for my best general ever who had 5 command stars.

And these assassins at most have 6 subterfuge so it would be 1% chance to kill my to-be Marian reformer. So now I'm quite angry and wonder: Does AI get any bonuses on VH for its covert ops? :hmmm:

[Papal_Knight]

don't you always stack a spy or assassin (or both) with your generals? I do. seems that way, they can never harm me. maybe that's what the AI does as well?? :hmmm: