Abortion Rights MudPit

[Infidel144]

Leviticus 20 something

So, no quote.

Deuteronomy 22:22

And not providing the quote...
"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel."
Does not say anything about abortion.

[enoch]

Lol you want the bible to use the word abortion in a time when a fetus wasn't really considered at all. Does it say check if the woman is pregnant first? No it doesn't. Follow the thought through. The Logos doesn't just spell it out for us or Trinitarianism wouldn't exist as a concept.

Leviticus 20 is called the Punishment for Sin. Basic bibble 101 so it is in there I promise. I notice you didn't object to the Christians sects part.

[Infidel144]

Lol you want the bible to use the word abortion in a time when a fetus wasn't really considered at all. Does it say check if the woman is pregnant first? No it doesn't. Follow the thought through. The Logos doesn't just spell it out for us or Trinitarianism wouldn't exist as a concept.

Still does not say anything about abortion.

Leviticus 20 is called the Punishment for Sin. Basic bibble 101 so it is in there I promise.

If "God [being] very much pro abortion" were in there, you would have quoted the verse.

I notice you didn't object to the Christians sects part.

I ignored your attempt to shift away from your assertion.

[Cope]

Still does not say anything about abortion.

If "God [being] very much pro abortion" were in there, you would have quoted the verse.

I ignored your attempt to shift away from your assertion.

Numbers 5 is the closest we get to God condoning abortion according to some translations. The proper reading is that Israelite women who commit adultery are cursed to be barren.

God's commands w/regard to the destruction of the Egyptians and Canaanites are plainly not an invitation to do murder at one's own leisure.

[Infidel144]

Numbers 5 is the closest we get to God condoning abortion according to some translations.

In NIV. But that is a mis-translation.

The proper reading is that Israelite women who commit adultery are cursed to be barren.

Or get diseased with rotting reproductive parts...

[enoch]

So if things not mentioned by name in the Bible is the standard genetic manipulation of eggs/sperm/fetuses, fertility treatments and god only knows how much else is outside or not a concern of the Logos.

The problem with arguing fiction created over millennia by inconsistent bodies of humans is laid bare in moments like this.

[Condottiere 40K]

The Old Testament appears to be both founding myth and a code of conduct; whether originally it was intended to be an instrument of social control, or just evolved into it, I couldn't say.

Maybe it was the Israelis' version of tightly hugging the Constitution and Amendments, as a means of clearly identifying their tribe(s).

[Prodromos]

Where?

It's all there in the Bible, man. In the Book of Condottiere, to be exact.

[enoch]

Could be in one of the many gospels not chosen for the Bible because they weren't as useful to upholding the Roman state.

[Prodromos]

Still no quote then?

[enoch]

Still no quote then?

Quotes were posted awhile ago, then discussed, infidel wants the word abortion which didn't exist in bible times because the world didn't have pro lifers then. It was all pro choice. Act accordingly.

[Infidel144]

Quotes were posted awhile ago, then discussed, infidel wants the word abortion which didn't exist in bible times because the world didn't have pro lifers then.

I did not say I wanted the word 'abortion', that is your invention. I said the verse you pointed at did not say anything about abortion.
Shakal.

[enoch]

I did not say I wanted the word 'abortion', that is your invention. I said the verse you pointed at did not say anything about abortion.
Shakal.

I do not agree with your summary of what was. Shakalaka Ding Dong.

[antaeus]

I did not say I wanted the word 'abortion', that is your invention. I said the verse you pointed at did not say anything about abortion.
Shakal.

The bible also didn't say anything about Kirk Cameron either. But for some reason we have to put up with him too.

[Infidel144]

I do not agree with your summary of what was.

Hmmm...
You: "Deuteronomy 22:22"
Me: "Does not say anything about abortion."
...seems my "summary" is accurate. So your lack of agreement is irrelevant.

Shakalaka Ding Dong.

Not an argument...

The bible also didn't say anything about Kirk Cameron either. But for some reason we have to put up with him too.

Who? And does not seem relevant.

[antaeus]

And does not seem relevant.

And therein lies the point.

[enoch]

Hmmm...
You: "Deuteronomy 22:22"
Me: "Does not say anything about abortion."
...seems my "summary" is accurate. So your lack of agreement is irrelevant.

Not an argument...

Who? And does not seem relevant.

So, when a man and a woman have sex sometimes a fetus is made in the woman’s womb. If say, like God, you call for adulterous women to be killed without checking to she if they are pregnant, it follows that one, in this case God, is cool with abortion.

And to be fair I don’t actually disagree with you, I agree with rational thought.

[PointOfViewGun]

Only about 5% of fertilized eggs manage to succeed as an embryo. By design, god allows natural abortion of 95% of all fertilized eggs.

[enoch]

Only about 5% of fertilized eggs manage to succeed as an embryo. By design, god allows natural abortion of 95% of all fertilized eggs.

So a better source than the Bibble. God Itself. That’s that.

[Cope]

Only about 5% of fertilized eggs manage to succeed as an embryo. By design, god allows natural abortion of 95% of all fertilized eggs.

The implication that the existence of spontaneous abortions (a.k.a miscarriages) justifies induced abortions is as asinine as arguing that natural death justifies murder.