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    Default How to get the General into the Phalanx

    I searched in the forum but I found only fragments. But I want to change the Generals with their horses to Spartan phalanx units. Can anybody describe it step by step? I tried it already, but it crashed every time the game (I tried ATG and others).
    My version is 1.2 and I have the Adornos World mod installed.

    Please excuse my bad Englisch...I'm not accustomed to use English in forums.

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Here is exsample how to make barbarians to use infantry general instead of cavalry

    type barb chieftain cavalry early dacian
    dictionary barb_chieftain_cavalry_early_dacian ; Barbarian Warlord
    category cavalry (you will have to add infantry here)
    class heavy
    voice_type General_1
    soldier barb_noble_cavalry, 12, 0, 1;(put the type of a soliders you like to use for ex barb_warguard)
    mount generals horse (remove this completly)
    mount_effect elephant -8, camel -4 ;(remove this completly)
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square ;(change this formation to some infantry formation)
    stat_health 2, 0
    stat_pri 12, 7, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 3, 6, 4, leather
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 2
    stat_ground 0, -2, -4, 2
    stat_mental 12, normal, untrained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 810, 110, 90, 130, 810
    ownership dacia ;(shows what faction can have this general)

    and also u should change armour attack charge...etc

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Thank you, this helped me very much. This was the direction I needed.

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Damn, I chance alle things like in this example (the stats and formation of the Spartans) but then the game got back to desktop just before the intro. Here is my code:


    type greek general's guard cavalry early
    dictionary greek_generals_guard_cavalry_early ; General's Bodyguard
    category infantry
    class heavy
    voice_type General_1
    soldier greek_hoplite_spartan_pylos, 40, 0, 1.3
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy
    formation 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, square, phalanx
    stat_health 2, 0
    stat_pri 16, 8, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
    stat_pri_attr spear
    stat_sec 16, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 4, 9, 6, leather
    stat_sec_armour 0, 1, flesh
    stat_heat 2
    stat_ground 2, 0, 0, 0
    stat_mental 14, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 30
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 690, 130, 70, 110, 690
    ownership greek_cities

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    LoL
    greek_generals_guard_cavalry_early
    are you blind or something?
    “"The robber of your free will," writes Epictetus, "does not exist”
    .

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Thats the problem? In the example is it still the old dictionary:

    Code:
     type             barb chieftain cavalry early dacian
    dictionary       barb_chieftain_cavalry_early_dacian      ; Barbarian Warlord

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Try to use -show_eror to see where is problem
    Make shortcut and add in target line
    "D:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\RomeTW.exe" -show_err -ne
    And u probably have same tupe twice....
    type greek general's guard cavalry early
    dictionary greek_generals_guard_cavalry_early ; General's Bodyguard
    also look for in ownership u need to have greek_cities only in one type of general...

    Think logical

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Amazing, it works. Thank you for the help, I had the code twice(one for the Greek and one for the Seleucid and the Macedon) and that was the problem. But where can I change the special feature of the unit? I want a general who can open the phalanx formation like the normal hoplite.

    And how can I add a unit for the Seleucid and Macedon (they should have the cavalry units)? I added already a description in the edue(Macedon_gernerals_guard) and named the dictonary in the edu like this but what is about the type? I know my bad English...maybe the code helps to understand me:

    type greek general's guard cavalry early [<--where must I change this type?)
    dictionary macedon_generals_guard_cavalry_early ; General's Bodyguard
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type General_1
    soldier greek_medium_cavalry, 12, 0, 1
    mount generals horse
    mount_effect elephant -8, camel -4
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
    stat_health 2, 0
    stat_pri 12, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 3, 7, 0, leather
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 1
    stat_ground 0, 0, -6, 0
    stat_mental 10, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 690, 130, 70, 110, 690
    ownership seleucid, macedon, slave

    I hope Hegemonia City States will be realeased soon because then I don't have to mod the rest (I would like to add a new faction...that will be hard)

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Yeah I did it but I earned new problems. I added a new unit for the Macedon and Seleucid generals:

    type macedon general's guard cavalry early
    dictionary macedon_generals_guard_cavalry_early ; General's Bodyguard
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type General_1
    soldier greek_medium_cavalry, 12, 0, 1
    mount generals horse
    mount_effect elephant -8, camel -4
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, hardy
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
    stat_health 2, 0
    stat_pri 12, 9, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 3, 7, 0, leather
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 1
    stat_ground 0, 0, -6, 0
    stat_mental 10, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 690, 130, 70, 110, 690
    ownership seleucid, macedon, slave


    type macedon general's guard cavalry
    dictionary macedon_generals_guard_cavalry ; General's Armoured Bodyguard
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type General_1
    soldier greek_heavy_cavalry, 12, 0, 1
    mount generals horse
    mount_effect elephant -8, camel -4
    attributes sea_faring, general_unit, hide_forest, very_hardy, general_unit_upgrade
    formation 1.5, 4, 3, 6, 3, square
    stat_health 2, 0
    stat_pri 10, 16, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 12, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 11, 6, 0, metal
    stat_sec_armour 0, 1, flesh
    stat_heat 2
    stat_ground 0, 0, -6, 0
    stat_mental 11, disciplined, highly_trained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 1020, 140, 110, 160, 1020
    ownership seleucid, macedon



    Also I changed the bodyguard units in the descr_strat to macedon_generals_guard_cavalry_early but the number of soldiers is in teh campaign always 48 (the leader have the same number of soldiers liek a normal family member) and when a new member get adults the game goes back do desktop (the show_err parameter gives no error warning). What have I done wrong? The edue has the right tags and in a custom battle it works.

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    Default Re: How to get the General into the Phalanx

    Nobody? Damn, I would like to play my campaign again. *g*

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