God's Number, proven.

[I'm Smarter Than You]

If you take 14 apples, and subract 14 apples you get 0.

0 is God's number.

The reason for this is because the Bible states "And from dust you are, and dust you shall return".

It becomes very clear God knew what he was doing when he created the universe.

I've read so many books you guys, don't argue with me because I know how this works.

[David Deas]

Spamming to mock is a punishable offense around here, kid. *Not* a good way to start out posting.

[I'm Smarter Than You]

Mocking with spam is a punishable offense, kid.

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how is that spam?

That's my theory on the proof of god.

Go read the book "The mind of god"

It's an actual science book.

[Niles Crane]

When God invites me round for a plate of scones and a cup of tea, I will be ready to believe in Him.

[David Deas]

Can't say you weren't warned.

[RedFox]

If I take 333 and add 333 to it, then I would get 666, the number of the beast? Maybe devil controls us all !

Or better, if I add 40 and 29 I get 69! (wow god saw it all...) /sarcasm.


Please stop spamming the board, it would be nice if some people just accepted there is no real proof of god.

[I'm Smarter Than You]

This is not about religion, this is actual scientific philosophy.

If you think about it clearly, everything has an opposite, thus equals nothing. 0, that's why it's considered "god's" number.

Thus the proof is that, the number 0 is universal, and applies to everything.

[Blau&Gruen]

... too much fun ...

[Perikles]

Spam. PM me if you want this reopening.

[Perikles]

Reopened, on a tight leash, as some think this thread can be salvaged from the depths of spam.

[Siblesz]

I thought so too, until I discovered that the universe is expanding, it's not a balanced zero. However, you could posit that as the universe expands, it will one day also contract... and then expand again, which is reflective of the philosophy of the zero. It's all a circle, and I still believe this, but is the circle a spiral, or is the circle simply a circle? If it's a spiral without end, and if the circle will expand infinitely, then God created the universe, because there needed to be an originator. If it's a circle that expands and contracts, then either God does not exist, or God did not create the universe - the universe created God, instead, because the the perfect balance of the universe cannot not co-exist with the presence of an originator. An originator would stall the balance to go one way more than the other.

[iudas]

I thought so too, until I discovered that the universe is expanding, it's not a balanced zero. However, you could posit that as the universe expands, it will one day also contract... and then expand again, which is reflective of the philosophy of the zero. It's all a circle, and I still believe this, but is the circle a spiral, or is the circle simply a circle? If it's a spiral without end, and if the circle will expand infinitely, then God created the universe. If it's a circle that expands and contracts, then either God does not exist, or God did not create the universe - the universe created God, instead.

If the universe created God, then the universe is God, and the old God is just something else IMO. And if the circle expands and contracts, to me, it just means God created a circle meant to expand and contract. He should be able to do absolutely anything since He is existence itself.

I think this thread is not spam, but it shouldn't be treated like a serious philosophy.

It is actually the essence of believing in God... how I see it. If there was a time before the existence of Universe, then anything had the value of zero. But since the Universe eventually came into existence, then it was created by God out of nothing. This is the truth until it is proven otherwise.

EDIT: Why is the OP banned...?

[Siblesz]

If the universe created God, then the universe is God,

That's my philosophy, yes. God is the universe. God includes us and everything in the universe. God is an unconscious force of retraction and expansion, of positive and negative energy forces, and the continual and unending balance of the two.

And if the circle expands and contracts, to me, it just means God created a circle meant to expand and contract. He should be able to do absolutely anything since He is existence itself.

Not necessarily. The universe might not have had a beginning, and it might not have an end, it is simply a continuum of both negative and positive energies that add and substract endlessly in a balanced cohesion of disorder.

It is actually the essence of believing in God... how I see it. If there was a time before the existence of Universe, then anything had the value of zero. But since the Universe eventually came into existence, then it was created by God out of nothing. This is the truth until it is proven otherwise.

Something cannot come from nothing. God could be that 'something', but it could also be the one positive particle that clashed against all of the negative particles of the universe, creating a "big bang". And the big retraction could come from the inverse, one negative particle clashing against all the positive particles of the universe, creating a domino effect of retraction. Nothing can ever be 100% positive, or 100% negative. There's always an inter-exchange from extreme to extreme, an inter-exchange that could be perceived as balance, or as zero. Will the universe expand infinitely, or will it contract? Who knows... I think it's impossible to know. But if it does contract one day, then the above will be proven correct. Of course, we won't be there to see it.

Just imagine an explosion in space. The explosion will throw positive energy into the vast emptyness of a negative field, creating expansion, but the gravity of the particles of positive energy also require that these come together at one point in time. So you have positive energies all over the empty negative fields, all being propulsed by the explosion of their center. Once these particles are stretched out to a limit, they come back together again, finally joining in one central point and culminating in the idea of 'the atom'. The atom is almost fully compact, but one single positive particle is missing from its core. Once that last positive particle joins in, the atom becomes unsustainable and explodes again into empty space, starting the process all over again. That, in my idea, is the universe, and we're a very, very, very small extension of that process.

[iudas]

That's my philosophy, yes. God is the universe. God includes us and everything. God is an unconscious force of retraction and expansion.

I cannot disagree with that.

Not necessarily. The universe might not have had a beginning, and it might not have an end, it is simply a continuum of both negative and positive energies that add and substract endlessly in a balanced cohesion of disorder.

IMO man cannot imagine something without a beginning coherently.

Something cannot come from nothing. God could be that 'something', but it could also be the one positive particle that clashed against all of the negative particles of the universe, creating a "big bang". And the big retraction could come from the inverse, one negative particle clashing against all the positive particles of the universe, creating a domino effect of retraction. Nothing can ever be 100% positive, or 100% negative. There's always an inter-exchange from extreme to extreme, an inter-exchange that could be perceived as balance, or as zero. Will the universe expanse infinitely, or will it contract? Who knows... I think it's impossible to know. But if it does contract one day, then the above will be proved correct.

True, but the "big bang" is supposed to have created the universe, while you say that it might have been triggered by positive and negative particles of the universe.

[Siblesz]

True, but the "big bang" is supposed to have created the universe, while you say that it might have been triggered by positive and negative particles of the universe.

What created the big bang? If balance is a primal characteristic of our world, originating from the atom, from extreme to extreme, then balance must also be a primal characteristic of the universe. So I come up with this replacement of what happened before the big bang: the opposite of what is happening to our universe today. Instead of expanding, it was retracting, until all retracted to one single point, and then expanded again. That is balance, and an originator (God) is not compatible to that balance.

IMO man cannot imagine something without a beginning coherently.

Beginning cannot come from nothing. There must be a beginning to all thing. Whenever men are confronted with questions of "Where did this and that come from?", whether the question is "Where did lighting come from?", or "Where did the universe come from?", we always put God as our first answer without first analyzing what came before the beginning. The answer to all these questions, however, is: there is a beginning, but the beginning is an extension of the end. There is no God, just an interminable continuum of beginnings and endings. The beginning and the end are one and the same. All is one, one is all, and all is new.

Have you just invented your own religion complete with it's own God?

I don't invent religions; I observe reality and come to logical conclusions.

[Axe-Battler]

EDIT: Why is the OP banned...?

duplicate account...lol sorry it was a really stupid idea...

No the theory I meant I don't actually consider it, but science does claim everything has a negative, both physically(anti matter) and mentally, such as ideas, good vs bad, night vs day, etc...

so the universe science claims has the exact weight of 0 in mass.

So take anything it could mean 0 is the universal number...

[David Deas]

That's my philosophy, yes. God is the universe. God includes us and everything in the universe. God is an unconscious force of retraction and expansion, of positive and negative energy forces, and the continual and unending balance of the two.

Have you just invented your own religion complete with it's own God?

Because you're definitely not coming from the Bible on this one.

[iudas]

Have you just invented your own religion complete with it's own God?

Because you're definitely not coming from the Bible on this one.

One can even be Christian with his belief. If one has the same opinion as Siblesz but believes that Jesus is a part of his God (or rather, driving force of the universe, continuum of beginnings and endings), then he can be a Christian...

@Siblesz
That continuum of beginnings and endings would then be God.

And origin is needed to all things, for use to completely understand, because we haven't seen so far anything without beginning or end.

[Tom Paine]

He never claimed to be, and its hardly his own new religion - its very close to that of, for instance, Einstein.

[David Deas]

One can even be Christian with his belief. If one has the same opinion as Siblesz but believes that Jesus is a part of his God (or rather, driving force of the universe, continuum of beginnings and endings), then he can be a Christian...

Thats inane. Are you saying that I can believe in Zeus, but as long as I also believe Jesus is a part of Zeus then I'm a Christian?

Honestly, what's the point of being able to call yourself a Christian if it doesn't guarantee your entry into Heaven?