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    Default cd and dvd: do they decay in a few years?

    Hello!

    Oe of my rather tech savy fellows said me that no matter how I care dvds will decay during one or two years, even if I never use them. I mean house written dvds.
    It doesnt make me happy at all. I have many things on dvd. Should I again and again copy them on fresh ones, in order not to lose them? Or keeping my precious dates on harddrive?
    Or its not entirely true?
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    Default Re: cd and dvd: do they decay in a few years?

    All (re-)writable CD's/DVD's degrade over time, yes.
    This is because the chemicals that store the information are unstable.

    Factory made CD/DVD's do not degrade because they use dents instead of chemicals to store the information.

    Magnetic media like hard-disks also degrade, but not as fast and it's easier to re-write the data.

    The quality of the disks have a huge impact on the life expectancy of your data.
    Some will degrade in just a few years, but others will last decades.
    I believe Philips makes special long-lasting disks, which are more expensive but will keep your data safe a lot longer.

    It's a real problem and the only solution is to:
    1) Always make backups.
    2) Copy your precious data to new disks every five years or so, until some nerd find a solution.



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    Default Re: cd and dvd: do they decay in a few years?

    So its because the chemicals just degrade naturally, or because of use?

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    Default Re: cd and dvd: do they decay in a few years?

    Quote Originally Posted by BarnabyJones View Post
    So its because the chemicals just degrade naturally, or because of use?
    They degrade naturally, no matter if you use them or not.
    I think storing them in a dark, dry environment will help a bit, but won't stop the process.



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    Icon6 Verbatim rulz

    That's why you should always write on quality DVDs and CDs and they have excellent chemicals comparing to various no name junk.

    I use ONLY Verbatim DVDs and CDs, and I have 10 years' old Verbatim CDs, and they still work. Btw, in the past chemical quality was much better than today one.
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    Default Re: Verbatim rulz

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia View Post
    That's why you should always write on quality DVDs and CDs and they have excellent chemicals comparing to various no name junk.
    Yes, but I think they will last only for 5 years
    Factory made dvds though last for decades or more I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by DukeofSerbia View Post
    I use ONLY Verbatim DVDs and CDs, and I have 10 years' old Verbatim CDs, and they still work. Btw, in the past chemical quality was much better than today one.
    Hmm...10 years is good but only for a cd?
    And yes, in the older times dvd writers were better as well. Nowadays you are required to pay much but you get is junk.
    I think writing dvds with lesser speed might lengthen the lifespan.
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    Default Re: Verbatim rulz

    Quote Originally Posted by Odovacar View Post
    Hmm...10 years is good but only for a cd?
    I don't think there were any DVD-R's 10 years ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    I don't think there were any DVD-R's 10 years ago.
    DVD-Rams were the closest thing around at that time.

    I've got some CDs that are at lest 10 years old and work just fine. They were stored in a room on the shelve that never got too cold or to hot. There are always exceptions to the life span of any media, but backups are a must.
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    Icon12 Re: Verbatim rulz

    Quote Originally Posted by Odovacar View Post
    Yes, but I think they will last only for 5 years
    Factory made dvds though last for decades or more I think.
    I think I read they can last 30 years and more... But not sure was that for DVDs or/and CDs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odovacar View Post
    Hmm...10 years is good but only for a cd?
    And yes, in the older times dvd writers were better as well. Nowadays you are required to pay much but you get is junk.
    I think writing dvds with lesser speed might lengthen the lifespan.
    I didn't mentioned writers, but it is true - nowdays are not good as was in the past (I just compare my old NEC ND3500AG and the new Pioneer DVR-111D, what a difference).
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