Help me finish my computer please!

**Lavastein** · May 23, 2007, 08:24 PM

ok i got everything i need now, just a little more time and all shall be well. Bless you guys =)

**Incinerate_IV** · May 23, 2007, 08:29 PM

Looks good, but powersupply and motherboard is wayyy too expensive,

Here's a eVGA version of the same motherboard for $100 less:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188019

And here's a much cheaper powersupply that is more than enough to handle anything you throw at it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341001

If you want to spend more money and make your computer more future proof, go for a quad core processor, a Q6600 is pretty cheap now.

**Lavastein** · May 23, 2007, 08:42 PM

thank you mate, you have any other suggestions?

heres a question, should i go vista or no? if so what version of vista should i get?

adding in what you gave me its down to 737.30, certainly a worthy downgrade!!!

**spartan_phalanx** · May 23, 2007, 09:48 PM

I have the eVGA 680i motherboard and it's great (nice overclocker).

I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit and although I haven't had many problems with it, I would highly recommend not going the Vista route yet. If you absolutely think you want to then going 32-bit vista home premium is probably the best. 64 bit support is not as good as 32 and even 32 isn't great, yet. Many older games don't run on Vista either, which may or may not be a problem for you.

Can't you use your XP from your current system?

**Lavastein** · May 24, 2007, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by spartan_phalanx

I have the eVGA 680i motherboard and it's great (nice overclocker).

I run Vista Ultimate 64 bit and although I haven't had many problems with it, I would highly recommend not going the Vista route yet. If you absolutely think you want to then going 32-bit vista home premium is probably the best. 64 bit support is not as good as 32 and even 32 isn't great, yet. Many older games don't run on Vista either, which may or may not be a problem for you.

Can't you use your XP from your current system?

unfortunately windows doesnt allow you to do that anymore.

yeah it would be a problem considering that i still play m2tw, rome and a paradox games.

**Lavastein** · May 25, 2007, 10:49 AM

i still need a hard drive and sound card Bah my current rig keeps shutting down on me every 10 minutes

Yeah guys i could still use help searching, its extremely difficult to find anything with something that keeps shutting down on you.

**mrmouth** · May 23, 2007, 09:42 PM

Heres my recommendation for a power supply.

Super efficient, super quiet, top quality parts, modular cables, best warranty in the business at 5 years. It will run a quad core with 2 8800's in the sli config with a ton of hard drives no problem. Its what I run and I couldnt be happier, plus great customer service. I bought mine for $170 just a few months back.

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...emno=CA6200027

The OCZ is nice too...

Memory: OCZ or Corsair, I like OCZ myself, great overclocking ram. $69.99 after rebate, free shipping. Gold heat spreaders are a plus if your going with a windowed case, which you are, nice case choice.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ductCode=85236

I always check here for deals:
http://www.ocforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=19

**Cataclysm** · May 23, 2007, 09:52 PM

Aaah, desktops. I wish I didn't need a stupid laptop for school because every single time I open t3h intrawebz I get depressed that I'll never be able to play Crysis in all its DX10 glory because I can't upgrade this thing. It's a good laptop, its just that it's a laptop...

I've had good times with ATi cards, but nVidia has them thoroughly thrashed with that monster of a card, the 8800... I'd get the 8800 Ultra since you got your comp down below a thousand and now have money to throw at this beast. Beware- it's HUGE and power hungry, but it'll destroy anything you pit it against...

EDIT: Oh noes! I missed the part about you not needing this. Oops, my bad.

**mrmouth** · May 23, 2007, 10:00 PM

I was ready to give him this link too. Evga 8800GTS 640mb @ $309

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=322839

**mrmouth** · May 25, 2007, 12:09 PM

Like Spartan said, dont know what your looking, for but heres a Maxtor 300gb SATA, 3yr warranty, $59.99.

edit: oops that deals done.

Heres a 500gb. Thinking of grabbing one myself.

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4551377

Other than that I have 2-150gb Raptors and I like 'em.

**Lavastein** · May 25, 2007, 12:30 PM

yeah the raptor i was looking at before you guys posted about it

i have bookmarked the newegg page with it.

so what do you think? 2 raptors or one raptor and one seagate?

it all depends, im not sure if its speed or space im going for. Perhaps a mix is good? your thoughts?

**spartan_phalanx** · May 25, 2007, 12:48 PM

Two raptors would be fast in raid and that's 300GB's of space. Do have photos, movies ect. that you store on your computer? Anything that's going to take up lots of space? 150GB should be decent, even at 5GB a game you would be able to get 15-20 on there pretty easy and still have some room left.

**mrmouth** · May 25, 2007, 12:54 PM

You seem to have the money so go with the 2 raptors. I'm looking at the 500gb just for storage of photos, music, all that crap, and I have a 80gb I use as a portable USB HDD.

Possible sound card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102005

**Lavastein** · May 25, 2007, 01:33 PM

all righty then ill go with the two raptors.

yeah that sound card sounds pretty good.

the goodies like better speakers keyboard ill get later on in the year.

would you suggest i get a physics card? i wasnt sure if i should or not. i have a 7900gt superclocked graphicacrad in this sucker and i wondered if it would either make the graphics better or worse

and yes i have a lot of pics songs, and games i use on the comp.

**mrmouth** · May 25, 2007, 01:58 PM

I know very little about physics cards. I only know one person who had one and he never thought it was a game changer. Perhaps somebody else knows more, I realize your current rig isn't running up to snuff right now but see what you can find in terms of reviews and with google.

Its always something you could add later. Same with a sound card.

If your trying to talk the Mom into this better to maybe add some things later down the road, save her some bucks. Speakers and all that, like you said, you can grab later, and they are fairly cheap for a nice setup.

As it is you will have a killer machine and for the major components you are looking at you should be able to get away with spending under a grand easy.

Right now it is so cheap to build a bleeding edge machine for under $1,000.

**Lavastein** · May 25, 2007, 02:54 PM

yeah dude i was surprisd at how cheap i could build my own. An alienware costs close to 3k what i can get for 1k its rediculous

**mrmouth** · May 25, 2007, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Lavastein

An alienware costs close to 3k what i can get for 1k its rediculous

yeah thats a crime all in itself.

If your not game or not experienced enough to throw everything together once you get all your components, Id recommend finding a small knowledgeable PC shop that can build the PC for you. It shouldn't cost more than $30-50, no matter how much they charge per hour.

Ive built 4 PC's in my time and even then this last time I had a small shop build this one, mainly because they guaranteed the build, I bought the motherboard and cpu from them directly and I was going out of town for a month, I wanted it ready when I came back.

If anything had went wrong during the build they would have replaced the component and they of course guaranteed the parts I bought from them for 90 days.

For any future build I will look there way, they only charged on average $5-10 more than a internet vendor was charging for any said component, they built it in one day at $30 and guaranteed the motherboard and cpu I bought from them for 90 days. Its much easier to drive 10 minutes to there store and have them throw in a new component than sending it back to the vendor or manufacturer.

**Lavastein** · May 26, 2007, 10:48 AM

ok heres everything that i have with the help of you guys

case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133021

cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003

power supply:
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...emno=CA6200027

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341001
hard drive x2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136012

motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...88014&ref=lmcd

in debate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188019
memory:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ductCode=85236

still in debate though

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034

im going to add it all up but im going to post it as is for now

then im going to double check, review what i have and then final decision on what i want, and what im going to show my mom

it seems to be getting pricey. im adding in the rebates at the moment and it seems what im going to have to do is try as fast as hell to order it asap and do the rebate the same day i order it.

i know theres a lot of debating issues, but what im planning on doing is if she says too much, im going to revert to the cheaper items on the list and make it look more....agreeable. (i am a genious =) )

feel free ( of course) to make any suggested opinions on this. Oh crap, an os, lol i guess its windows vista home premium

the price without an os is: $1234.64....yeah for real, 1234 lol
so i just went over my budget by 35 dollars minus OS

guys what is the full version of vista on new egg? there are so many home versions i dont know which one is the full one
im ranting, im sorry but damn it i want a pc

**Incinerate_IV** · May 26, 2007, 12:31 PM

The OCZ ram at zipzoomfly for $75 looks like a pretty good deal, get it before it expires!

If you want to save some more money, get rid of the sound card, the difference is pretty small. Then again I'm not much of a sound person. Also get rid of the Raptors, they are good, but pretty overpriced.

Now you should have more then enough for Vista, Home Premium would be the best choice.