Satanism Vs all

**Amorphos** · May 22, 2007, 03:20 PM

Satanism Vs all

try to keep this reasonably humorous, the idea is of exploration to find contrasts etc.

‘let us hope that you don’t exist, for otherwise i will be your only truth’ - Satan the mystic.

a few ideas to get started...
here i am taking the Lucifer approach, that of the ultimate rebel against god and his creation... the fallen angel, that heaven is not the ultimate residency and is thence false. it is not an argument of good and evil as these are relative to perspective, and we have had that debate already.

notion 1. the ultimate non duelist.
in religions like Christianity we have a dualism where we try to explain ‘evil’ by deifying it. however if only Satan exists then we don’t need another deity as it doesn’t presume that there is reason and good. we may say that there is only chaos and the world exists by random chance and will ultimately fall back into chaos and thence to a deep black void.

notion 2. existanticide
the idea here is not of wanton destruction but the desire for everything to come to an end - simply that all things will eventually cease so go with the flow and except ones eventual fate. this fat will ultimately end where all things end in nothingness, this may be seen as like the Buddhist nirvana without the smile lol, in other words enlightenment emancipation and liberation all end where? - will we be in eternal bliss? Satan say’s no, bliss as anything else is a state and the ultimate and terminal end of all things is stateless.

there is no way out, everything will be destroyed!

what would be your arguments against all of this and satanism in general?

**~~Ummon~~** · May 22, 2007, 03:35 PM

An argument such as this, evidently doesn't entice discussion.

Problematic to say the least, to define the adversary a rebel, anyway. He has no power to rebel or obey on his own accord infact.

It is also problematic to assign functions to it, as it doesn't have functions if not in the design of God.

**Amorphos** · May 22, 2007, 03:45 PM

ummon

i think ideas similar to satan go back before abraham - perhaps not in terms of an ultimate deity though [if that is concievd at all]. isn’t baphomet something similar, there are many accounts of heretics whom believed the devil was the creator of the world, it not hard to see why really.

as it doesn’t have functions if not in the design of God

so all the horrible things in the world emanate from god? what i am saying is that any and all existences has functions, god X all things. satan would have to have his own functions or we would have to say that he is gods creation, and all bad in the world is also - perhaps we can.

**Beiss** · May 22, 2007, 03:44 PM

This girl is so hot. If a bit young and clumsy.
EDIT: Eh, what the hell.
That's all I have to say about this. Whew, nice to get that off my chest.

**Blau&Gruen** · May 22, 2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Beiss

This girl is so hot. If a bit young and clumsy.
EDIT: Eh, what the hell.
That's all I have to say about this. Whew, nice to get that off my chest.

What does she actually say? She mumbles so strongly.

**Falconius** · May 22, 2007, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by AbrahamShalom

What does she actually say? She mumbles so strongly.

What girl are you guys talking about? What video? Did I totally miss somthing?

**~~Yosemite~~** · May 23, 2007, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Beiss

This girl is so hot. If a bit young and clumsy.
EDIT: Eh, what the hell.
That's all I have to say about this. Whew, nice to get that off my chest.

Well that's about it. What else, i can't seem to see.

**Amorphos** · May 23, 2007, 04:03 PM

well this thread had provoked an intelligent response.

perhaps satanism is just that, no matter how it is masked.

**~~Ummon~~** · May 22, 2007, 03:48 PM

They are horrible only if you choose them to be. Matter is ultimately irrelevant infact.

It's that or either, unfree existence.

Besides, you see, Satan is not a god, but the negation of divinity for God's own purpose. Like I said elsewhere: a cop in disguise who infiltrates the gang. Even worse: he founded the gang just for the sake of arresting people. Even better finally, there's a gang because thus the rest of the people can choose if they want to abide law or not. :wink:

**Beiss** · May 22, 2007, 04:37 PM

Yeah, she does. I didn't pay attention.

**Blau&Gruen** · May 22, 2007, 04:41 PM

You are the speaker, are you?

**Beiss** · May 22, 2007, 04:46 PM

Speaker? In the video you mean?

**Blau&Gruen** · May 22, 2007, 04:48 PM

In the net many things are possible as long as it fits on a screen. But your reaction implies, you'ren't.

**Beiss** · May 22, 2007, 05:04 PM

Yeah, I removed the link after thinking about what I had just done and decided not to mess up the thread with my off-topic stuff. But I guess the damage had already been done, so here's the link, again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6nW3O6oqY

you'ren't

Whoah, that's a first-timer for me. How in the world do you pronounce that? "Yurnt"? "Yewrnt"?

**Blau&Gruen** · May 22, 2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Beiss

Whoah, that's a first-timer for me. How in the world do you pronounce that? "Yurnt"? "Yewrnt"?

You mean, when I mumble.

**Falconius** · May 22, 2007, 05:27 PM

Wow. That links to a whole lot of loons.

The world is filled with crazies.
What fun!

**Beiss** · May 22, 2007, 06:44 PM

Oh, yeah, the mumble rules out the need for pronounciation. Silly me.

**preston** · May 23, 2007, 06:46 PM

read the satanic bible it explains everything then go to the satanic websites and read around. i was satanic for 3 years it was intresting at first but the further i went into it i became very knowledgable on the subject and well its just as corrupt as christianity. satanism is polytheistic multi god (about 58 gods).