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    Re: Bernie Sanders on the Colbert Report

    Yeah.. he spent the best part of 20 years toying with both parties. I think it was only during the Obama years that he spotted his opportunity with the GOP fringe. I doubt that the party matters to...
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    Just to be clear, because there are a lot of pages of too much text back and forth here, it's becoming difficult to decipher perspectives...

    Are you presenting this study to back up your opinion...
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    You're not going to win an argument with Legio by providing a generalised subjective as your benchmark.

    If I'm prepared to accept a higher death rate, sickness rate etc in order to live a more...
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    Re: Bernie Sanders on the Colbert Report

    Bernie didn't win. The US is just so far to the right relative to other 'democracies' that any movement towards a centre mainstream feels like October 1917.
  5. Re: Biden says Armenian mass killing was genocide- What next for Turkish - US Relations?

    That's a fair call.

    Certainly though Australia, as per Cyclops' post, still has a lot of work to do. But, as per the stoush earlier this year when China (in classic whataboutery defence of it's...
  6. Re: Biden says Armenian mass killing was genocide- What next for Turkish - US Relations?

    With respect to Turkey and the Ottoman Empire, there is extensive academic dispute amongst international relations academics as to whether it qualifies as a successor state, or a continuing state,...
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    Meanwhile... speaking about mental health... last weekend in Auckland, New Zealand, the largest concert in the world in the last year attracted 60,000 fans. Quickly followed in Melbourne, Australia...
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    Re: Abortion Rights MudPit

    With IVF, the unwanted blastocyst was never carried in the first place. It was taken from the body as egg and sperm. They were combined in a laboratory. Therein lies the paradox which leads to the...
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    Re: Abortion Rights MudPit

    Therein lies the grey area that both undermines Cope's certainty of opinion, but also counter intuitively backs it.

    This shotgun effect required in IVF - multiple eggs, multiple lost fertilised...
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    Sticky: Re: I'm currently listening to

    Saw Fanny Lumsden play at a country festival the night before a rodeo last month. Such a great teller of stories about rural Australia.

    -a7NrwChdB8

    Have been listening to Lori McKenna over...
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    Re: Abortion Rights MudPit

    Put it away Cope. It isn't necessary.



    I think by this reading, I'm best to procrastinate my decision on what to do with my frozen blastocysts. In my personal case, I have 3 day 5 blastocysts...
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    Re: President Biden's 100 first days in office

    If there are more RHINOs than non-RHINOs in the Senate and House, doesn't that mean that the RHINOs are actually the Rs and the non-RHINOs are actually the RHINOs?

    Where did I put my raptor...
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    When are you two going to call it a draw?
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    Re: Abortion Rights MudPit

    I'd agree with Cope there... if it hasn't fertilised, it's just a dead skin cell for all it matters.
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    Re: Abortion Rights MudPit

    Your lack of familiarity with a scenario does not render it fringe.

    I can tell you from personal experience, that this isn't a fringe scenario. IVF is now commonplace, and these conversations are...
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    Re: Abortion Rights MudPit

    Interesting. That is also a logical cut off point, although at a point in which it less likely that distinct human will actually become a distinct human even if left alone.

    At the moment of...
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    Re: Islam is the heir to Abraham

    Interesting argument. Continuity.

    Of course there are a bazillion other religious movements that claim some form of continuity from Abraham.

    I mean in this respect the only thing Islam has...
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    Sticky: Re: Discussion and Debate Community Thread

    The Lord has cometh and spoils divided quite a lot over the years...
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    Re: Abortion Rights MudPit

    We can get really nice and technical here if we like. Technically, we might be placing the mother's wellbeing above a barely implanted blastocyst that is in no way viable yet.

    I mean, at about the...
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    Re: Death of George Floyd and Subsequent Riots.

    That kind of resignation to the status quo is a touch weak.

    There is nothing inherent in human behaviour that suggests that police need to regularly kill people in order to do their job...
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    Re: Death of George Floyd and Subsequent Riots.

    The guilty verdict does not address systemic racism. It addresses Chauvin's technical failings as a police officer - and at a stretch the institution that made it possible for him to use a...
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    Re: The Myth of Reverse Racism

    You know Cope, you'd stand more chance of convincing people of your argument if you used the language of those you're arguing against.

    For example, someone from the "radical left" wouldn't...
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    Certainly, but as we've seen in places like Taiwan, there is a window of opportunity to not lockdown, if other responses are aggressive (quarantine, track, trace, etc), and widely bought-into by the...
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    Sticky: Re: I'm currently listening to

    It's a Coffins kind of day...

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    Or Genocide Shrines...
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    And finishing on a lighter note...

    O216gmfYNiE
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    Interesting perspective from the CPER... https://voxeu.org/article/aiming-zero-covid-19-ensure-economic-growth

    Rather than debating over which mitigation strategy is best - lockdowns or broader...
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    Re: The Myth of Reverse Racism

    Reverse racism is explicitly premised on the idea that racism only functions in one direction, from white people, towards non white people, and thus if prejudice runs in the reverse... it must be...
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    Re: Trans Day of Visibility

    Certainly familiarity can create understanding. But I'd suggest that familiarity has to be personal, rather than informational. Some out there struggle to empathise with trans people because they...
  28. Re: Changes in the phenotype of Swedish and Europid individuals and implications thereof.

    If your argument consists of speculation, we should probably close the thread.


    I mean, anybody can play that game. I speculate that Australian men are over time getting broader waistlines based...
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    tgoodenow,

    Your post only serves to highlight how bad California, and the US in general, has dealt with the pandemic. Not whether or not Florida's lockdown, or lack of, is best practice.
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    Florida hasn't magically missed the epidemic. It has done no worse than some US states which have locked down. But it isn't exactly a beacon of health with 2 million confirmed cases and 30 something...
  31. Re: Changes in the phenotype of Swedish and Europid individuals and implications thereof.

    Cyclops... you just described the premise for Wall-E

    Where we become slugs by removing selection pressures.
  32. Re: USA: Local judge and former president of foundation that runs ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ for children arrested on 7 counts of child pornography

    Ahhh right. You mean to point out that the side you disagree with is guilty of the thing the side you agree with is accused of. So whataboutery then.
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    Again with the arbitrary photos that have no context and mean nothing Bo1Bo1Sha3. Haven't we already covered this?
  34. Re: USA: Local judge and former president of foundation that runs ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ for children arrested on 7 counts of child pornography

    Haven't we already covered whataboutery in this thread?
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    Re: President Biden's 100 first days in office

    But there is vested interest in both sides of government as to why it should stay. Because over the long term, both sides can use it to stymie the other.

    I would agree that it's not the most...
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    Re: President Biden's 100 first days in office

    It isn't useless. It is an exceptionally powerful obfuscatory tool.

    It could however be argued that it is a tool that is designed to protect the status quo, which is why it has been used to defend...
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    Re: President Biden's 100 first days in office

    Heh.

    It was that kind of talk that prompted me to make this thread...

    Of course it's not racist. It's a tool. A piece of artillery - it does not decide on the validity of it's target, it just...
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    Re: Coronavirus outbreak - From China to the World.

    The major vaccines work. The evidence coming out of well vaccinated territories is that they work very well. There will be exceptions of course, so be aware of having a cognitive bias that assumes...
  39. Re: USA: Local judge and former president of foundation that runs ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ for children arrested on 7 counts of child pornography

    We don't really disagree here tho do we.

    To reconcile our two viewpoints. There is a danger of scandalous cases being used as dog whistles by those who seek to gain by their non-representative...
  40. Re: USA: Local judge and former president of foundation that runs ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ for children arrested on 7 counts of child pornography

    In this situation, has the scandal been shown to be representative of a systemic issue?
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