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    Re: EB-Twitter updates Discussion

    Atlantic Celtic or "Celtic from the West" is very much a minority view, most of whose proponents seem to be working in Spain or the UK, so it could almost be seen as nationalist history. Don't get...
  2. Re: Britain 2020: the final decline, or forging a new path?

    Leave campaigners said that, but according to ONS figures, in 2015 net migration of EU citizens represented 183 000 against non-EU 196 000. In 2014 these had been 130 000 EU versus 157 000 non-EU....
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    They did, but the assumption that people didn't like Eastern Europeans, but didn't mind Africans or Asians, as ep1c_fail seems to be suggesting, is rather far fetched. The mood music from the Leave...
  4. Re: Britain 2020: the final decline, or forging a new path?

    Do you truly believe the average Leave voter was concerned that EU membership meant there were too many white people coming into the UK? Really and truly?
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    As I predicted, Johnson is abroad promising more African immigrants into the UK. This really is not what Brexit voters thought it was all about. Expect a rise in political fortunes for people with a...
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    A vanishingly small number of Bennite lefties.
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    Except that the Remain/Second Referendum parties actually got more votes than the Boris/No Deal parties. The 'first past the post' electoral system will deliver a large majority with a narrow...
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    A bit of a non sequitur which some Bavarians might have been repeating in 1918.
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    Police are frequently sent to assist other police in different areas with limited resources to cope with a particular situation, but they stay under the command structure of the place they were sent...
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    It can't go exactly Catalonian because unlike in Spain there is no Civil Guard and policing is a devolved matter controlled by the Scottish Parliament in which pro-Independence parties have a...
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    They are "democratic socialists" rather than "social democrats"... not that it really matters because there isn't even a snowball in hell's chance of a Labour majority.
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    I tend to be a bit pessimistic, but I think the UK will start to fall apart in a bloody mess when Johnson gets in. The SNP will still have a majority of seats in Scotland and after Brexit part one,...
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    Farage has panicked and told his candidates in Conservative seats they will not be standing. He's scared that, already having angered many of his supporters, if Boris Johnson didn't win a majority,...
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    The call by Ian Austin to vote Conservative doesn't really deserve headline status, since he's already taken several steps down the Melanie Phillips path and had de facto switched to the Tories by...
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    Poll: Re: UK election thread

    Alun Cairns, Secretary of State for Wales, has resigned having been caught obviously lying about an attempt to collapse a rape trial by his friend and candidate. I said months ago that the...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    I didn't say it was too hard, I said it was a hard Brexit, since it proposed leaving the EEA and at some future point, leaving the customs union somehow, but it wasn't enough for the ERG. Of course,...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    That's actually the opposite of what I said.
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    The government does seem obsessed by the date, they have fetishised it, repeated it endlessly, appearing to have forgotten how repeating "strong and stable government" didn't work at all for Theresa...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    So now the House of Commons was ready to back the deal, but Boris Johnson insisted they rush the legislation through in 3 days or he said he'd withdraw it... this bizarre zero sum game tactic has...
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    Re: Catalonia Revisited

    The Spanish prosecutors seem to me to have made an Easter 1916 mistake...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Jean-Claude Juncker, the European commission president, has said the EU will grant another Brexit extension.
    This is hugely significant, because, if the rest of the EU27 agree - and it is not...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Because if Boris gets the deal through, he has just ended Farage and his pals as a political force forever. The Brexit Party want us to stay in the EU so they can moan about us still being in the EU...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    You're mistakenly assuming the Brexit "Party" is a serious political party rather than a bunch of chancer scrubs who are in it for the money and talk radio slots. The last thing they want is for the...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    All very true, but irrelevant to questions of the British Constitution. The UK is not a republic.

    For political reasons, obviously.

    That's sort of what would happen, but Labour Remainers are...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    This, or any, referendum has no special status in UK law. It was held according to an Act of Parliament which even said (as The Left says above) that it was "advisory". David Cameron or any of his...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    I've finally seen the document, having been wondering why it was "worst case" planning. I have been curious as to what variables are in play which cause the scenario to be described as "worst case"...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    That's not relevant for two reasons:

    1. He would only want to call a general election in circumstances where he was the clear favourite in the polls. Since that isn't currently true, he can afford...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    According to the Commons Information Office, parliament merely "does not normally sit" on "public holidays" (not quite the same as a bank holiday) so it seems the route of creating more weird local...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    It's normal when a new government comes in for there to be a short break before the Queen's Speech where the new government's policies are announced. What is weird about this one is the fact that...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    But in order to call a general election, he needs a qualified majority vote in Parliament... what if he doesn't have it?
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    The terroristic phrase "will of the people" is itself misleading propaganda. 52% of 71% of those registered to vote is not the will of the people, although I can understand how elected politicians in...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    This reaction is as expected. Corbyn may not be interested but remember that shortly before the last general election the Parliamentary Labour Party passed a no confidence motion in him by 197 votes...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Behaving like an African dictator from 20 years ago isn't what I'd call a lever at his disposal. A PM staying on having lost the confidence of the House just doesn't happen. If he tried it, either...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Spain would block any attempt to do anything like that, because of their own separatist problems.

    The division is now between secular, liberal UK and ROI and the religious bigots in the North...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    What exactly do you think all these mysterious levers are that Boris has in his virtual political signal box?
    How are the ploys "unconstituitional"? Prorogation has been off the agenda since the...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    There is a majority in the House firmly against No Deal. There will be another Cooper-Letwin Act if necessary.
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    All true from a tactical point of view, but Farage knows that the moment we leave the EU, he and his cohorts become a big fat irrelevance with no money but what they make from radio appearances. He...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    I'd add the caveat that specifically Conservative Brexiteers are the ones willing to do all that, not everyone who voted leave.

    Re the Greens, polling seems to show the Greens down since the...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    I told Labour supporters after 2017 not be so quick to clamour for a general election: the Conservatives can't possibly run as incompetent a campaign as they did 2 years ago. Again, Boris will be...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    I would imagine Boris is going to be looking at the polls carefully to see if he can win enough extra seats in an election to steamroller opposition to No Deal. It would take significant gains for...
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