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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Cultural change is guaranteed to occur, as are leadership changes, policy changes and other influencers of cultural views. You winning lottery is a dice roll. Your analogy is very flawed, and your...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Yes. And Japan continues to threaten the Pacific with their expansionist empire, and Spain continues to be a problem with their South American ambitions, and don't even start me about that eternal...
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    Re: President Biden's first term in office

    My father in law is the same age as Biden and cycles just fine. And could probably beat most of us, me included, in an arm wrestle. The guy is an ox... and still has a single figure handicap on the...
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    Re: The Potential Lab Origin of COVID-19

    Exactly. The point is not to just deny culpability. It is to create a toxic debate environment where for the general public, it is too difficult to discern the actual truth. It is Authoritarian PR...
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    Re: The Potential Lab Origin of COVID-19

    Politically, China has benefitted from ambiguity over Covid's origins. To that end they've not just made it difficult to discover the origins, but have actively promoted conspiracy theories that...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Technically... Russia isn't defeating NATO at that point. There's likely to still be some poor night shift contract cleaner in some semi-mothballed nuclear shelter under a mountain in New Mexico who...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    The truth is in here...

    Ukraine was only ever sitting comfortable with neutrality while it was so corrupt as to be easily manipulated. But once they made it clear that they wanted to end that...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Appeasement tends to be a 'kicking the can' approach, that sooner or later has to be confronted, at the least, it is likely to bring about inter-generational issues when those who are sacrificed to...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    If folks wear armour everywhere, then potential shooter will switch methods to something else that armour won't do anything to protect. These events aren't spur of the moment, they're planned. Guns...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Although we don't have great visibility of Ukrainian losses at any level, apart from high level rough estimates from Zelenskyy. If we're seeing up to 100 KIA per day for Ukrainian forces, and many of...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Others will be able to explain it better, but some of that is a structural thing. Russians express mentorship and experience at different levels and in different ways to Western forces. So they...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    4 confirmed. A whole bunch more unconfirmed/claimed/haven't been seen in a while/have no family so can be denied.
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    Armed guards everywhere is again treating symptoms, not causes. And prone to all the same argument flaws.

    Apart from the societal precedent it sets.
  14. Re: Want to rant about rightwings and conservatives? This is your thread.

    A private citizen can get away with taking the high ground, because nobody is ever going to see them again, and the interview is not going to change anyone's opinions. In that respect, this was just...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I think the glaring Russian failure, was the fact that the US published their plan, in some detail, months in advance, and they barely changed a letter of it, as if to double bluff. But they went...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    The optics that those literally at the front have are disturbing. But as you note, we do also see a lot of low angle very long range drone footage which is clearly from drones placed well back from...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    Yet those in the armed forces and police overwhelmingly vote conservative, and are prepared to give their lives in service to their country or community. Falling back on low EQ is an easy hit because...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I don't think they are there to push back Iskanders, nor in the numbers supplied are they there to duel MLRS - I don't think this is a threat that is possible to target at all. I think they're there...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    But this refers to what sumskilz describes up the thread... the gun advocate position is that they have the right in the first instance, so any attempt at control is a breach of that right. So what...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    The impacts of this conflict on the wider global economy are troubling in a number of different ways. But I just don't see an ethical way to avoid this outcome without some sort of Russian...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Yeah... too much of a political hot potato. I think if any of that cash ends up in Poland or Slovakia or Moldova, It would do more good.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    There has been a few videos published of Ukrainian forces advancing, but you're right, it has gone dark so who knows what's happening there. Ukraine do seem to be tempering their attacks - nibbling...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    You literally asked me two posts back for a proposal. So I gave you my start point. I can't speak for any other group or organisation. Are you not prepared to workshop with me by answering my...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    By intent. You challenged me to present some sort of proposal, but a conversation that aims to discover a new way of understanding an issue should start with vague outlines to discover the point of...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    Oh I agree. Unsettled doesn't mean there should be compromise. But it does make it more likely at some point, and preferable to one side or the other coercing a solution.

    If I was to spit-ball my...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    For them, they are, and based on the current status-quo, they hold enough levers of power to maintain their view of the status-quo.



    You make a mass/group judgement, and apply it with weasel...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    And yet, it is not a settled issue.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I'm not suggesting that Russia will succeed in taking all the Donbas, but they have already taken enough of it for them to consider it a tactical victory, and they will take more, even if not much...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    Yet to get your desired goals, you have to offer enough compromises to the folks you are talking to, that they will come to a willing agreement with you. So to a degree, you have to step back from...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    You assume that a single compromise is all that is ever needed. Closing the book after a single iteration falls into exactly the same trap that was sought to be avoided by allowing for amendments in...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    Ironically, a well crafted amendment could even work to the gun lobby's advantage, by clarifying their right to sell specific kinds of weapons to the public or by opening up markets that are...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Severodonetsk is a big loss considering the reframed reduced scope of the conflict. More importantly, it is a political victory for Putin - a named town that was the focus of fighting that was lost...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    The Founders anticipated that things they wouldn't have the context to understand might occur in the future. That's why they created living documents that had change processes built into them.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    A quicker peace that leaves the conflict frozen is the outcome we all suggested early on would be one of Putin's end state goals (if anyone cares to flip back through the thread)

    Putin has...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    When the Soviet Union fragmented, outside powers helped secure the nukes, and negotiate their centralisation.

    Of course, I'm not an advocate of this kind of scenario, but I don't think it is...
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    Re: Robb Elementary School shooting - May 2022

    The danger is that some kids do their own thing no matter how well parented they are. They are influenced by many factors, including friends (or lack of) colleagues and social media that no parent...
  37. Re: The Toxicity of Luxury Beliefs and the Liberal Elite in 21st Century America

    Oh cry me a river Cope.

    Value judgements without evidence are bad. You're not going to convince anyone to change their behaviour, or respond to a perceived issue, without a clear understanding of...
  38. Re: The Toxicity of Luxury Beliefs and the Liberal Elite in 21st Century America

    How exactly have i mischaracterised your position? I have suggested that you have presented a subjective opinion regarding a correlation. I haven't characterised it as anything other than that.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    That's not entirely true. Unfortunately. That's what we would like to be true. But the reality is that Ukraine is a failed state at best, or part of Russia at worst, without support from larger...
  40. Re: The Toxicity of Luxury Beliefs and the Liberal Elite in 21st Century America

    My response is "that's just your opinion man" because as I keep saying... that's all you're presenting. Tha Librulz are smart and bad. Woe is me.

    "Whether liberals=more educated or more...
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