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    Poll: Re: USA elections 2020

    Last time I posted it was just after the election and I wondered 'What happens when enough Republican voters geniuinely believe the election has been stolen?' Guess we got our answer yesterday. This...
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    Poll: Re: USA elections 2020

    I didn't mean to suggest there'll be some kind of civil war, but this stolen election rhetoric may increasingly result in guys seriously thinking there's been a coup that they need to violently act...
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    Poll: Re: USA elections 2020

    Indeed, embarrassing stuff. As you say, Republicans are appeasing their Trump-loving constituents, but you have to wonder if they fully understand or care about the seeds they are planting. What...
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    Poll: Re: USA elections 2020

    Oh, did you mean candidates' (as in both of them)? I thought by candidate you meant Biden, as opposed to Trump the incumbent. Grammar is important. :P

    But yeah, in any case, Joe obviously did.
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    Poll: Re: USA elections 2020

    But he did?

    59:20

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CweqW7Pzxz8

    And he's condemned it repeatedly in the past, see the link below.
  6. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    And this is what the Senate has said its court will look like.



    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/theres-nothing-impartial-about-declaring-yourself-impartial/603658/
  7. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Two plus two equals four, my dude. Don't fall for Republicans trying to insult your intelligence.



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50493440
  8. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Christ, look at this clown show.



    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/08/adam-schiff-matt-gaetz-deposition-068041

    I get the facts aren't on their side and Trump's impeachment is bad for...
  9. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    This chasing the whistle-blower stuff is laughably dumb even for Republicans. Like everyone's over here listening to the testimonies that have already corroborated the whistle-blower's initial...
  10. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Seems he forgot to mention a few details first time round.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/impeachment-trump.html
  11. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Oh okay, so it's not a vote on an impeachment resolution. My bad. I guess in that case we can go back to ignoring the increasing number of testimonies that detail Trump's misconduct.
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50214895

    Must be tough for Republicans. Just as they get one irrelevant talking point going, it's shot down. Their protest at a single anonymous...
  13. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    I really didn't think these clowns could stoop any lower. Now they're physically obstructing the inquiry. I suppose this explains why:


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  14. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Stop watching Fox News and read the Constitution. For the 26th time, the House doesn't need a vote to start an impeachment inquiry. You might as well be arguing that someone needs to be charged...
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    Yeah I know what his comments were, but as my post said, I'm saying I don't buy the idea that the aid was withheld solely to force the server investigation and not the Biden one as well.
  16. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    It depends if you want to believe Mulvaney when he suggested withholding the aid was exclusively based on investigating 'the server' and that the two requests (investigating Biden and the server) are...
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    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-whistleblower/white-house-acknowledges-strings-attached-in-trump-withholding-ukraine-aid-idUKKBN1WW1C9?il=0

    Well, well, well, well, well.
  18. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Rather than repeating the latest Fox News talking point, maybe spend some time understanding the evidence and the fact that there doesn't need to be a vote on diddly until the House feels like it.
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  19. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    I have no idea what you're trying to get at but it seems stupid.
  20. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Gotcha. A transcript, a video and multiple testimonies to Congress are 'accusations', but an article from American Thinker is 'documentary evidence'.
  21. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Trump does bad thing, Dems (hypothetically) do bad thing, now Trump no longer have done bad thing? Make sense perfect.
  22. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    In regards to the earlier question whether the House needs to take a vote to start impeachment, here is a good article:



    https://www.lawfareblog.com/must-house-vote-authorize-impeachment-inquiry
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    The only way Democrats would 'overturn an election' is if Trump is guilty of wrongdoing. He can't be impeached if he's done nothing wrong, right? If he's innocent, he should have nothing to hide and...
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    I don't need to rely on the press when Trump goes on camera and says "we're going to fight all the subpoenas" and has his lawyer send a letter outright declaring his obstruction. And it is...
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    It'll be interesting to see how his previous views on Congressional oversight line up with any defense of Trump's unprecedented and blanket refusal to cooperate. From the Benghazi report:
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    This is also fine.



    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/04/us-diplomats-told-zelenskiy-ukraine-trump-visit-was-dependent-on-biden-statement-text-investigation
  27. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Trump is raging even more than usual on Twitter. Unsurprising, since the subpoenas are coming and support for impeachment hit a new high. There was also this interesting tidbit:

    “A majority of...
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    Trump Pushed Australian Leader to Help Investigate Origins of Mueller Inquiry

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html

    This is fine.
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    It's credible when the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community says it's credible. You're not even trying anymore with this dribbling about 'libruls'. I guess given the weight of evidence...
  30. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    And yet the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community said, 'I have determined that the Complainant has reported an "urgent concern" that "appears credible.'

    I'm afraid I'm going to take...
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    Why do you need direct knowledge if multiple people that you know and trust inform you of a wrongdoing? Sure, it's better to have direct knowledge, but failing that I don't see the issue in...
  32. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Worth reading the actual whistle-blower document now that's it been released. The call is not the only aspect of the story here.


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    How the heck is Democrats using their constitutional powers of oversight to reveal 'bad things' to the public an abuse of power? The public should surely know about these bad things? And the reason...
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    It's getting a bit cliched to compare Trump to Nixon but in this case the comparison is once again holding up.



    Rest of the article is good too.
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  35. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    I'd say let's wait and see what the impeachment enquiry reveals before judging voter opinion. Trump has been stonewalling most of the investigations. As I recall there was no appetite for impeaching...
  36. Re: US House Speaker Announces Formal Impeachment Inquiry

    Actually it seems because more moderate Democrats from purple districts are now in favour of impeachment that Pelosi has decided to proceed with the formal inquiry.


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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Well, not really. Britain voted to buy a new car but won't/can't tell the car dealer what colour and model it wants.
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Give it a rest, guv. As the court ruled, there was no reason, let alone a good one, to suspend Parliament for five weeks instead of the customary five or so days. Bleating about this somehow...
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Speaking of people who don't know what they're talking about...



    https://www.ft.com/content/7453c686-d9b7-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17
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    Re: Brexit - Time to scrap it and start again?

    Can we please stop regurgitating this tedious nonsense that Parliament blocking a No Deal Brexit somehow tied the government's hands. The government had three years to come up with a deal and they...
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