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I'd be happy to discuss that, but I think that belongs in the 'State of the Union' thread.

Concerning the Tribunal, I think it is a great idea in theory. I have serious doubts about any kind of...

Support, so that's pretty much an absolute majority right there :laughter:





I think I've said earlier that VoNC's and elected positions should stay or go together. So assuming there's no...

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I can agree with that summary for the most part. Specifically regarding the issue of 'control' though, that is obviously a relative concept in a war like this. I'd say (and I get the...

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Genocide is when the physical destruction of (parts of) an ethnical, racial or religious group is a goal in itself. Evidently this is near impossible to prove for areas where active combat is taking...

As far as I can tell, it pretty much is not allowing NGO's to operate in Gaza to provide aid. Not that it would enough to just passively permit it.

Not that any of that amounts to Genocide. But,...

You know, there's been a lot of talk with big words about Israel's intentions after 7/10. Most of them are just rhetoric by people with fixed ideological trajectories whose soap boxes were well worn...

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Curial offices should only remain if there's an election and accountability in the Curia. If that is not attainable then it should be a (local) moderator appointed by the administration if necessary...

Seems like the answer is staring us in the face: Admin Mishkin, responsible for all things related to medals.

Like where you're going with this. Let me see if I can dig something up.

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I don't know. Seems what AqD is arguing is basically business as usual, except without lip service to lofty Western ideals.

I don't think anyone here is thinking of starting over from scratch, which means it is important to preserve what is left of our community. Therefore, I would hesitate to adopt a strategy that splits...

You mean a forum makes for a better archive / mausoleum. That's probably true.

It's always good to inform oneself. At the same time, it's not like there is much to lose.



Not doing anything would be a sign we don't give a damn.

PS in practical terms: if we wanted to...

The baked in institution inertia has been a double edged sword. I think it came with a sense of obligation that probably meant the site has lasted longer than it has the 'right' to. Even this...

We have an absentee owner. A glaring 'single point of failure'

We're down to 3 active Admins, not all of whom may be tech savvy enough to keep things going if the others go down. Another 'red...

Not if you're the Champion of the Common Man. Then rules don't apply to you. Or at least a lot of people think they shouldn't.

As per your own definition, a siege implies a besieger that is trying to break in or force surrender.

For clarity's sake. If 7/10 is a sally, that implies a siege was in place at that point. So when I called 'siege' a hyperbole, that is the situation I was referring to.

So PovG used the wrong tense and nhytgbvfeco2 didn't correct it in responding to the quote. Let's not waste more energy on it.

The part where Israel was besieging Gaza on the eve of 7/10. It seems you're trying to build a metaphor on top of a hyperbole (siege). Perhaps not surprising you end up with a euphemism ("sally" for...

Of course it is, but once labeled as an Israeli apologist, everything I say must be contradicted out of principle.



That analogy makes no sense, so it is not surprising if any logic built upon...

We're discussing the degrees to which Hamas and Israel are responsible for civilian deaths in Gaza since 7/10. For Hamas' responsibility, all that matters is whether they got the reaction they...

It's the difference between 7/10 being an act of terrorism vs an act of war. Hardly inconsequential for what was to follow.



You do not have to convince me Israel is responsible for there being...

Much of this I would say to be true as well, with one exception: Hamas is not "a group from Gaza", they are the government of Gaza. That's rather a big difference in terms of the response you can...

Israel is not a monolithic state. A sizable proportion of its people have been willing to accept a 2 state solution even if the far right and settlers communities are utterly against it. On October...

That pretty much describes how I feel about your responses.

It seems to me I've rather consistently pointed out what Hamas' responsibility is, but that in response I get neither refutation nor acknowledgement. Instead your arguments are along the line of...

I could ask what claims I failed to stand by, but I'm probably not going to get an answer to that either.



Then don't do it for me. Or do you really want to wait until someone else actually...

You are taking the liberty to criticize my position without taking any yourself. And no, it is obviously not irrelevant to know that one of the parties that can end the war is one that is quite...

There's that brick wall again. To know it is irrelevant, you have to know what it is.

Which part do you think they're responsible for?

Count yourself lucky. Lip service is more than I got from you regarding Hamas' responsibility.

This is simply incorrect. My argument was never to shift all of the blame on Hamas, just substantial part. I have[\I] outlined what I believe are the responsibilities of both sides and I [have] said...

Evidently that is not how I see the debate is trending. From my perspective, it seems like apart from the events of 7/10 itself, it is a litany of accusations addressed to Israel, which IMHO...

It very much looks like it to me though. For instance:



If we disregard historical debt, as you say you do, it is simply a conflict between a weak polity (Hamas-run Gaza) and a powerful state...

First of all, thanks for engaging with the question at all. I'm serious.

I don't disagree at all that Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank were in a difficult position in the period leading up...

So your answer is Hamas didn't do anything because they could not. If we assume that is so, why did they launch the attack on October 7th anyway?